What Do You Mean, Born Again?

August 2, 2010   |   Category: Urgent Questions   |  

By Irvin Baxter

The term “born again” is one of the most used phrases among present-day Christians. Yet, if asked what the term born again means, most church members could not give a clear explanation. The importance of this subject is shown in what Jesus said, “Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). Jesus is saying that to be born again is to be saved. Being born again is the plan of salvation that Jesus authored at Calvary. It is imperative that we understand what is required for us to be born again!

All agree that when Jesus went to the cross, He brought in the means of salvation for everyone who will accept it. But what really happened at Calvary? What can it do for me? How do I accept what was done there in my own personal life?

At Calvary, there were three steps to the work of Christ: death, burial, and resurrection (I Corinthians 15:1-4). It is very easy to see that these three steps make up the act of being born again spoken of by Jesus (John 3:1-5); to die, to be buried, and to rise again—that is to be born again. So we see that Jesus, through His death, burial, and resurrection, bought for us the plan of being born again spoken of in John 3:3, whereby we receive salvation.

The fact that Jesus purchased a plan of salvation for us is the greatest news the world has ever received. The thing we must understand is that not only was it necessary for Jesus to do something, but also it is absolutely essential for us to act upon what He did. Jesus told Nicodemus, “Ye must be born again” (John 3:7).

Now the astonishing thing is that Nicodemus was a religious leader of his day; yet, he had no concept of what it meant to be born again! We find that the very same thing is true in the day in which we live. Many men and women who fill positions of spiritual leadership in our world have no real understanding of the born again experience. Nicodemus inquired of Jesus in John 3:4, “How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?”

Jesus answered, “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” You can’t be born again of a woman. The second birth is a spiritual birth.

Notice that Jesus said without being born again we cannot see or enter the kingdom of God. In other words, we cannot be saved. On the day of Pentecost when Peter preached the first message after Calvary, the men cried out, “What must we do?”

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost” (Acts 2:38). Peter was giving them the plan of salvation: repentance, baptism, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. If being born again is to be saved, Peter was evidently talking to them about being saved.

Remember, there were three steps to Calvary: death, burial, and resurrection. The way to accept Calvary in our individual life is to accept the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. We don’t have to literally die, be buried, and rise again. Jesus was our substitute and did this for us. All we must do is accept what He did by spiritually dying, symbolically being buried, and spiritually rising again.

Repentance

We take on His death by repentance, which is spiritual death. When a person truly repents, he dies out to his own will, renounces it forever, and vows to live from that time on according to the will of Jesus Christ.

Baptism

We take on His burial by baptism in water, by immersion into His name. Romans 6:4 says, “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism”. Baptism must be done by immersion; for something cannot be buried by sprinkling a little dirt on top of it. That burial, after a few days, would certainly prove to be insufficient! Furthermore, every baptism of which we have biblical record was administered by immersion. That alone should determine our course of action on this matter.

Infilling of the Holy Ghost

Finally, we partake of the resurrection of Jesus Christ by the infilling of the Holy Ghost. This is the new life that enables us to live as a Christian should.

We see then that being born again means to spiritually die—repent; symbolically be buried—baptism; and spiritually rise again—receive the Holy Ghost. Thus, in plain language an individual must repent of his sins, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ by immersion, and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. It says in I John 5:8, “And there are three that bear witness in the earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.” What is the one thing in which the spirit, water, and blood agree? Is it not the new birth? Blood covers our sins at repentance; the waters of baptism wash them away, thus making us clean for the Spirit to come into our lives to dwell. When the Roman soldiers thrust the spear into Jesus’ side after He died, the scripture tells us that there came forth blood and water (John 19:34). This was for cleansing of the nations. It takes blood and water to eradicate sin. Blood is the cleansing agent, and water is the flushing agent. When a jar is washed for canning, soap AND water are necessary to cleanse that jar so that it might be filled with good fruit. Likewise, blood and water are necessary to cleanse the human soul so that it may receive the Spirit of Christ, which is the Holy Ghost. This teaching was verified by Peter when he said, “Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins” (Acts 2:38). Repentance and baptism are both absolutely essential for the remission of sins!

Paul taught that the three steps of Calvary is the gospel that we should preach. In I Corinthians 15:1-4 he tells us, “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I have preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.” Paul went on to say in II Thessalonians 1:7-8, “And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.” Paul told us that the gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. How can we obey the death, burial, and resurrection? We obey by repentance, baptism, and receiving the Holy Ghost as we have previously explained. Notice that the Lord Jesus is to appear “in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel.” It is absolutely necessary for every human being to obey the gospel by being born again. Jesus told Nicodemus, “Ye must be born again.” (John 3:7).

The Old Testament Speaks of the Born Again Plan

Let us consider another biblical lesson given to us concerning this subject. The Bible teaches us that the things of the Old Testament were types and shadows of the things to come. When the priests of the law ministered by offering sacrifices, there were three major steps to their duties.

First they slew the animal to be offered on the brazen altar. The blood here was shed and caught into a container for use in the Holy Place. The flesh of the animal was to be consumed by fire. This teaches us the first step of salvation—repentance. When we repent, we present our bodies a living sacrifice, and our sins are covered by the blood of Jesus.

After the shedding of blood, the priests were ordered to wash at the laver and to cleanse themselves with water in preparation for entering the Holy Place. The laver, a round fountain-like structure, was overlaid in the bottom with a looking glass. When the priest bent over to wash, he was able to see himself so that he could be sure that he was clean. When an individual is baptized, he should examine himself to be sure that he is leaving the world behind once and for all.

We see then that the second step of the tabernacle ministry plainly teaches us of water baptism. Blood and water were used to cleanse and prepare them for entry into the Holy Place, even as blood and water cleanses us in preparation of receiving the Holy One into our lives!

After cleansing, the priest would take the fire from the brazen altar and enter through the veil into the Holy Place. The Holy Place had no doors or windows through which light could come. The only light would come from the golden candlesticks. These candlesticks consisted of seven wicks fed by oil from seven bowls. The wicks had to be lit with the fire brought by the priest from the brazen altar. The uniting of the oil and fire at the candlesticks to produce light is a perfect type of the Holy Ghost and fire promised to New Testament believers (Matthew 3:11). Without the light of the Holy Ghost we could not see to live in the Holy Place, which is where every Christian should live.

God spoke of His great plan of redemption in the Old Testament in types and shadows; and then in the New Testament He spoke plainly to us so that we would have no doubt of His will! Once again we recall the words of 1 John 5:8, “There are three that bear witness in the earth, the spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree in one.” This Old Testament lesson beautifully reaffirms to us the absolute necessity of the full born again plan in each life for salvation!

Common Misconceptions 

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ

Acts 16:30-31 reads this way, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Many have taken this scripture to teach that all that is required for salvation is to believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world; and from that point on the individual is saved. It is definitely true that an individual must believe that Jesus is the Savior in order to be saved. However, Paul, who spoke these words in Acts 16, has some further teaching on the subject in Romans 10:13-15.

Let’s consider the text: “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent?” If we wanted to be absurd, we could take this thirteenth verse to teach that all an individual must do for salvation is to call out the name of Jesus one time and he has received salvation. Paul tells us they can’t call on him in whom they have not believed. Furthermore, he said that they couldn’t believe in him of whom they have not heard. We cannot merely believe. We must believe something about Christ. When Paul told the jailer in Acts 16 to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, he went on to speak unto him the word of the Lord (verse 32). The word which Paul spoke was apparently the gospel; for the result in verse 33 was that the jailer and all his house were baptized at midnight. That’s how essential baptism is for salvation. Paul took all these people out at midnight and baptized them!

Some would object here by saying that we are saved by faith alone. It is true that we are saved by faith, but it is also true that true faith always produces action on the part of the believer. Let’s study from James 2:14-22 to verify this point.

“What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or a sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works; shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thus how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?”

When an individual believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, what do they believe about Him? They believe the gospel, which is the death, burial, and resurrection (I Corinthians 15:1-4). James teaches us that faith without action is dead, or it is not really faith at all. When a sinner hears the true gospel and truly believes, he will obey the gospel. An individual obeys the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ by repentance, baptism in Jesus’ name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost, evidenced by speaking with other tongues. (see our booklet “Tongues—Devilish or Divine?”). This is the salvation of Calvary! “Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?” (made complete).

If you are still having trouble conceding to this teaching because of the element of works involved, let’s reason concerning one more point. Being born again —repentance, baptism, and receiving the Holy Ghost is not considered by God to be a work. In Titus 3:5 we are taught, “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and the renewing of the Holy Ghost”. This scripture tells us that regeneration, which is being born again, is not a work of righteousness.

Concluding this matter, we will cite a familiar biblical example. In the great revival at Samaria in Acts 8:5-23, a sorcerer named Simon heard the preaching of Philip. He believed and was baptized and continued with Philip beholding the signs and miracles that were done. Many people would say that because Simon believed, he was saved. Yet the Apostle Peter said of him in Acts 8:23, “For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.”

It is impossible for anyone in the bond of iniquity to be saved; for the scriptures tell us, “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed” (John 8:36). Simon believed and was baptized, but he had not received the Holy Ghost; therefore, he was not born again. We cannot be half-born and survive. The entire work of Calvary is necessary for our salvation.

The Thief on the Cross

Many have asked, “If an individual must repent, be baptized, and receive the Holy Ghost for salvation, how was the thief on the cross with Jesus saved?” (Luke 23:38-43). First of all, it was impossible for anyone to be born again at that time, for the born again plan was not yet complete. Jesus had not died, been buried, and risen again. God has always had a plan of salvation for each dispensation of time. In Noah’s day the only way of salvation was to get into the ark. In Moses’ day the only plan was the law. In the church dispensation, the only way to be saved is to be born again. Jesus told Nicodemus, “Ye MUST be born again.”

Conclusion

May we point out as we conclude this study that we have been given the first church and the Apostles after which to pattern our teaching and practices. In each recorded account of conversions under the Apostles’ ministries, the three steps of being born again are evident. In Acts 2:38 it was repentance, baptism, and the Holy Ghost. In Acts 8:12, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:1-6, we find the born again experience taught and received. Why should we vary from this practice when we are to be built on the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the Chief Cornerstone?

Do not allow anything to turn you aside from this truth: you must be born again. If you haven’t as yet, you should do so today!

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50 Responses to “What Do You Mean, Born Again?”

  1. Amy Rubenstein

    tongues is not a necessity to being saved why do you believe it is then if it was Ik of a lot of ppl in hell cuz all they did was have a godly sorrow for their sins and repent not get filled thats a blessing but what about ppl that dont

    • Doug Norvell

      Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.(This scripture says you have to have the Holy Ghost or you do not belong to Jesus Christ).
      10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
      11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.(This scripture tells us the Holy Ghost is our resurrection power).

      Scripture says it is part of salvation to have the Holy Ghost.
      John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Jesus said you have to be born again of the water and the Spirit).

      When Jesus left the disciples, He told them to wait until they received the Holy Ghost, so they knew they did not have it yet. How did they know when they received the Holy Ghost? Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.(They knew when they began to speak with other tongues).
      Peter told them that this evidence of what they seen and heard was the promise of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

      Then Peter said it was for everyone, as many as the Lord God shall call.
      Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

      It is the promise and gift from God. Acts 8, 10 and 19 shows us it is the evidence of the Holy Ghost.

  2. Some say Jesus said in John 3:16,”For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” – and Jesus didn’t say anything about baptism. But Jesus wasn’t finished speaking yet. Later after he rose from the dead and just before he ascended into heaven he said in Mark 16:16,”He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be saved, but he that believes not shall be damned.”
    Jesus gave an example of what damned means in Matthew 13:49-50,”So shall it be at the end of the world, the angels shall come forth and sever the wicked from among the just. 50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire, there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” He also said in Mark 9:43-44,”And if your hand offend thee, cut it off, it is better for you to enter into life maimed, than having 2 hands to go into hell, into the fire that is never quenched. 44 Where their worm dies not and the fire is not quenched.”
    Some say getting baptized,”Is only an outward sign of an inner change and therefore is not needed to be saved.” Mark 16:16 above answers that. Also – Peter was asked by the people what they needed to do to be SAVED in Acts 2:37, he responded in Acts 2:38-39,”Repent and be BAPTIZED every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the PROMISE is unto you, and to your children, and to all those that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.” That means that promise is just as valid today as it was back then. Note Peter was talking about the INITIAL remission of sins and not the confession of sins later mentioned in 1 John 1:9, which is 18 chapters AFTER the book of Acts. Peter said in 1 Peter 3:21,”The like figure where unto even BAPTISM DOES ALSO NOW SAVE US…..”
    Some say the thief on the cross next to Jesus was saved after he told Jesus he believed in him and Jesus then told him he would be with him that day in paradise, and the thief was not baptized. Previous to that time Jesus had not given the COMMANDMENT to be baptized until after he later rose from the dead and just before he ascended into heaven, which is Mark 16:16 and Matthew 28:19 – therefore the thief, or anyone else at that time did not know about water baptism and therefore could not have done it. Jesus said in John 14:15,”If you love me KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.” In John 14:21 he said,”He that has my COMMANDMENTS and KEEPS THEM, it is he that loves me.”
    Some say there is little mention of water baptism after the book of Acts which means water baptism is not relevant after that. All the scriptures in the book of Acts is a record of what was done by Jesus disciples when the Churches were FIRST formed – there was no reason to later keep telling them about water baptism in Jesus name. 2 examples are Paul baptized Crispus and many CORINTHIANS in Jesus name in Acts 18:8 – Paul later wrote 1st and 2nd Corinthians. Paul baptized the 12 BELIEVERS in Jesus name at EPHESUS in Acts 19:1-7, Paul later wrote the book of Ephesians.
    Some say Romans 10:9 says if we confess our sins and shall believe in our heart that God raised him from the dead, we shall be saved. And Ephesians 2:8-9 says by grace we are saved through faith and it is a gift of God, and not by works. Note Paul wrote both Romans and Ephesians and it was Paul that was baptized by Ananias in Jesus name back in Acts 9:18, Paul baptized Lydia and all her household in Jesus name in Acts 16:15, Paul baptized the Jailer and all of his household in Jesus name in Acts 16:33, Paul baptized Justus in Acts 18:7. Paul said in Galatians 1:12 that he was not taught by any man but was taught by Jesus himself, which means whatever Paul said was exactly what Jesus told him to say. Paul said in Galatians 1:8-9,”But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” Paul was so adamant about that, that he repeated himself in verse 9,”As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that you have received, let him be ACCURSED.”
    Hosea 4:6,”My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you shall be no priest to me, seeing you have forgotten the law of God, I will also forget your children.”
    Malachi 3:6,”For I am the Lord, I change not…..”
    Hebrews 13:8,”Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.”
    Those 2 scriptures mean there is no reason for a person to think or believe Jesus will make an exception and save a person that has not been baptized by immersion in water in Jesus Name and that has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit, which is described in Acts 2:4, Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, and Acts 10:44-48. After Pentecost – every time the Holy Ghost was given and received, except Acts 10:44-48, it was by the LAYING ON OF HANDS.
    Acts 10:1-43 and Acts 11:1-18 describes why Peter did not lay hands on Cornelius and those with him in Acts 10:44-48, which is because Peter did not believe that salvation was available to the Gentiles. God baptized Cornelius and those with him with the Holy Ghost which showed Peter that salvation was available to the Gentiles.
    DaveS

  3. Richard Brown

    Brother Doug, You are right on with your response concerning John 3:1-8! How did the Apostles know believers had received the Holy Spirit baptism, they heard them speak with new tongues (John 3:8). Jesus told Nicodemus you must be born of water and spirit and that’s what Apostle Peter preached since he’d been given the Keys to the Kingdom! Apostle Peter went around opening doors for everyone (Jews, Samaritans, and Gentiles.) Praise our Heavenly Father for the truth!!!

  4. Matilde Brown Polo

    Hello, I love your tv program. I am a catholic but I do not pray to Mary or any saints. I was baptized when I was a baby , is this enough?
    I believe in Jesus. I believe he die and rise against. I repented of my sins and believe that Jesus is the son of God .
    My husband and I are trying to move to another church where only the Bible is teach.
    Any recommendations?

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Matilde,
      When you were a baby, did you understand repentance and remission of sins? No, because you were too young to understand. There is not one account in the Bible that speaks of a baby baptism. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
      Notice the scripture says to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. If you need a church, email me at dnorvell@endtime.com with a zip code and I’ll find you a church.

  5. ANDREA WILDER

    I really don’t understand what you are saying. I have been a christian for years! You are saying 1st. Accept what Jesus did, Repent, baptism then what?? Receive the Holy Spirit? When you accept christ the holy spirit comes in…NO? don’t understund.

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Andrea,

      Have you ever read Acts 8? Philip went into Samaria, they believed in Jesus, they were baptized in the Name of Jesus (not titles, father ,son and Holy Ghost), yet they didn’t receive the Holy Ghost. If it is an automatic receiving and there is no evidence of the Holy Ghost, how did they know the people did not receive it?

      Look at the scripture, Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

      How did they know the people received the Holy Ghost after Peter and John came and laid hands on them? Other scripture tells us how Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
      47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
      48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

      Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
      2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
      3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

      Scripture tells us that they heard them speak with other tongues.

  6. I’m a member of a church and have tried to live right for many years but back slide a few years after being saved. I have asked God to forgive me. What should I do if anything ? Thank you

    • Doug Norvell

      Venna,
      If you are in a true bible believing Spirit filled, Spirit led church then get with your pastor and tell him what is going on in your life. If you have been biblically born again, ask for forgiveness, make up your mind to follow Jesus, ask for forgiveness and move on, not looking back. Scripture tells us that when we are baptized into Jesus Christ it is for the remission of sins. That means to remove your sins. Make sure that you have obeyed the gospel and that you have repented and been baptized in Jesus name and received the Holy Ghost. If you need a church that baptizes in Jesus Name, contact me and I will find one in your zip code. dnorvell@endtime.com

  7. ALISA WILSON

    Thank you for your quick response. And I appreciate your willingness to find me a church but I have called before and you do not have a church in my area. Portland Oregon need I say more. The way things are getting to be, I think with a fellow believer we will baptize each other.

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Christina,

      Thank you for your question, scripture tells us that we are buried with Christ in baptism, it also says we are planted with Him. Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
      5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

      When a person is buried, they dig a hole deep enough to cover the body with dirt, and when we plant something, we also dig a whole and place the seed beneath the ground and cover it up. So baptism is to bury us cover us up and sprinkling just doesn’t do that.
      We also have examples of this in Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
      38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

      Notice they both went down into the water. The Name of Jesus is also important, because we are being buried with the one that died for our sins and it’s His blood that covers us. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      Notice the scripture says that baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins, this is when the blood of Jesus is applied to our sin debt. other scripture tells us this also, Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
      Notice Saul/Paul was told to be baptized and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Jesus

  8. Donald Haaning

    That is not true.Eternal life is a FREE gift that God offers to those who believe ONLY on the finished work of the cross.Your adding of baptism and turning from sin are works that will send you to hell.Trust in what Christ did ALONE.

  9. Paul Mooney

    Irving, I have watched your shows viewed all your studies and have enjoyed many of your talks. I started following the Lord when I was 17 and now 63. I have no doubt I’m following Jesus, have the Holy Spirit and love everyone. But according to much of the explanation in many of the answers to questions posed, I would be lost…and of course, I know I’m not. Many of the answers are based from Pentecostal doctrine and not strictly the Word of God. I know that sounds really blunt, and you probably would not agree, but it’s easily proven with the Word of God and I would use the same verses you use and have used to prove your points. If you could step out of the Pentecostal (denominal teaching) you would understand much clearer. I could explain this in hundreds of pages but I’m not. It’s not difficult for a Christian to understand. I believe you are a Christian but misguided on some of the teachings…sorry don’t mean to be out of order, just getting to the point. First, no one is born again until have are resurrected in their glorified body. Everyone who repents and starts following Jesus teachings receives the Holy Spirit (it has nothing to do with speaking with unknown tongues). A person does not have to be baptized to be saved (nowhere does it say that they do). No one is saved until they die and are resurrected with their glorified body. Look up the meaning of saved. It means delivered, and people get delivered many times, but saved once, at the resurrection. Saying that one remains in their sins until they are baptized is complete nonsense. Baptism should be done (but it’s symbolic), just like the sacraments (symbolic). When we give ourselves to God, it’s a spiritual conversion. What matters is the heart/mind actions. When we are His, we serve Him willing and obey his commandments because we love Him. The only thing that gets us to heaven is our belief that He took our place for our punishment. There is nothing we can do to add to that in any way to improve it. When we believe that (and believing means doing) and doing means of a free will (because we are changed in heart/mind (sanctified, have a renewed mind) and we grow as we read, study pray. That’s our strength (the Word). When we sin, we know it because He chastises us. If we don’t forgive others, we are not His. If we do not love everyone, we are not His (not their ways of sin, them). There is so much we need to learn and the only way to do it is, get studying in the Word and listen to the Holy Spirit (who is that Word and it’s alive) and obey. It helps to know the Hebrew/Greek, since English did not exist when they were written. There are many other things we could get into, but these are very basic and yet so misunderstood. I’ve found out that when one removes the Pentecostal experience from a Christian, they seem to melt and become very sad. You can’t do that with a true Christian who know Jesus as their Lord, not just savior. It’s a walk of Faith, not temporary experiences. There is coming a time when people will need to be as Job and all the emotional experiences of Pentecostalism will not be of any use then. Please don’t mistake my talk of Pentecostalism the same as Pentecost in the New Testament. It’s two separate issues. I’m with the Bible, not church dogma. Look at it the same as prophecy. I currently follow 25 prophecy teachers. Am I to believe you are correct and all others are not? I’ve studied prophecy for 46 years and have watched it revised many times when they don’t work out, the way God told them. Bible prophecy is real, but who is God’s prophet? His prophets don’t make mistakes, if they speak for God. I wish they would just say, that’s what they understand, instead God told them. I have not seen one that has been totally correct yet, but I love keeping up on it. Well, it’s time to end this, I’m getting off subject. I just think you and your staff need to rethink some things, yet I suspect, you probably think, NO, I need to rethink some things. I only want what God will is, so I’m believing He will let me know if I’m off track, because I walk by faith and that’s what I’m relying on Him to do. Please don’t take anything personal, I just feel a need to share.

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Mr. Mooney,

      You said that no where in the Bible does it say a person must be baptized to be saved. Well, that isn’t the case. Jesus actually said it. Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      You also said that people receive the Holy Ghost when they repent and start following Jesus. Well, once again the is scripture seems to say different than your belief.
      Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. (How did they know the people didn’t receive the Holy Ghost? How did Simon know that the laying on of hands helped these people receive the Holy Ghost?)

      You also said a persons sins are not taken away at Baptism. Well Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (What does this scripture say baptism is for?)

      1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. (This scripture clearly says baptism saves us).

      Then you said we are saved at the Rapture. Now I would agree that we need to continue work out our own Salvation until Jesus returns with fear and trembling. But Scripture tells us the gospel of Jesus Christ saves us. 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures ( Notice Paul says it is the Gospel of Death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ that saves us). Repent=Death, Baptism=Burial, Holy Ghost=Resurrection.

  10. Sirs, When you defined the saving Gospel you seem to leave Jesus out. Mark 1:14, 15 is where he begins and the Gospel of the grace of God is precisely the same as the Gospel of the Kingdom (Acts 20:24, 25. Yes, of course the death and resurrecton are vital parts of the Gospel too.

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Anthony,
      We are in no way leaving out Jesus from the Gospel. The Bible very clearly defines the saving Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; (Notice this is Paul speaking)

      2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. (Paul clearly says the Gospel that saves you, is what he declared).

      3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;(It is the same Gospel he received).

      4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:( That Gospel is the Death, Burial and Resurrection of JESUS).

      This is the same Gospel that Peter and the rest of the Apostles taught. Peter taught Repent=Death, Baptism=Burial and resurrection=receiving the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:38).

  11. Ernie H. James Jr.

    Is a person who repents of their sins to Jesus in Yr 2018 and dies in their death bed saved? They can’t be baptized. It is my understanding that when person prays to Jesus and asks for forgiveness of their sins (as I did in 1970 in Soul S. Korea on active duty is the USAF) they receive the Holy Spirit, their soul is sealed, their name is written in the Book of Life and then they are to be baptized if they, not to get saved to show they are saved in a public showing by being baptized..(put under the water and back up) to show they have already accepted Jesus as their savior. As mentioned I was saved in Korea and wasn’t baptized until my assignment in Germany, after I returned to the USA picked up my family and went to Germany. It is also my belief that once saved always saved. Please reply sorry for all the words

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Ernie,

      In John 3 Jesus is speaking to a Pharisees, named Nicodemus. He tells him that a man must be born again of the water(Baptism and the Spirit (Holy Ghost) to enter the Kingdom of God. John 3:3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
      4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

      Jesus also told us that he who believes and is baptized shall be saved Mark 16:He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

      In Luke as Jesus is giving the final instructions to the Apostles He says this; Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.48 And ye are witnesses of these things.49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

      Notice Jesus says preach repentance and remission of sin in His Name (Jesus). Also remember he said that belief and baptism saves you and Jesus told Nicodemus you must be born again of the water and Spirit.

      Now at the very first church service, Peter who was full of the Holy Ghost, stands up and proclaims to the crowd in Jerusalem, the gospel of Jesus, that Jesus came and He died and He was resurrected. The people realized they had killed the Messiah and they cried out what shall we do?
      Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

      He says this is for everyone that the Lord our God shall call, that means from that day, until Jesus comes back we are to do this. An notice what does the scripture say baptism is for? It isn’t an outward sign of an inward change, it isn’t to let everyone know that you decided to live for Jesus. It is for the remission of sins, baptism in Jesus name is when His blood pays our sins. The Blood of Jesus is applied at baptism.

      When you receive the Holy Ghost, the bible tells us in Romans 8:11 that is our resurrection power. In order for us to be changed and our feet leave the ground, we need to be filled with the Holy Ghost.

      If you have more questions, please contact me at dnorvell@endtime.com

  12. Speaking in tongues is not evidence that someone has received the Holy Spirit, It is the sign for Non believers and there are a number of places where it is mentioned that some people whom have received the Holy Spirit, will not necessarily be speaking in tongues (another language)

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Sias,

      When Jesus ascended into Heaven in Acts 1, He told the disciples to wait in Jerusalem until the y received the Holy Ghost. What was the evidence that they received the Holy Ghost? How did they know? Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

      • Sias Fourie – In addition to what Doug well said, please consider the following: I never mean to offend anyone but every time it is mentioned that a person received the Holy Ghost they spoke in tongues as the Spirit gave utterance, which is Acts 2:4, Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 19:5-6, and there is no scripture that says it happens any other way. The following scriptures prove that when a person gets baptized with the Holy Ghost it is at that moment the Spirit of Christ dwells in them. Just before Jesus ascended into heaven he said in Mark 16:17,”And these signs shall follow them that believe, In my name shall they cast out devils, THEY SHALL SPEAK WITH NEW TONGUES…..” Paul said in Galatians 1:12 that he was not taught by man but was taught by Jesus himself which means that what Paul said was exactly what Jesus told him to say – Paul said in 1 Corinthians 14:2,”For he that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not unto men, BUT UNTO GOD, for no man understands him, howbeit in the SPIRIT he speaks mysteries.” In other words when a person speaks in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance they are given a prayer language. Paul said in 1 Corinthians 14:21-39,”In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people, yet for all that THEY WILL NOT HEAR ME, saith the Lord. 22 Wherefore tongues are for a SIGN (or PROOF they received the Holy Ghost) not to them that believe, but to them that believe not……”Verse 39 states,”Wherefore brethren, covet to prophesy, and FORBID NOT TO SPEAK WITH TONGUES.” Paul said in 1 Corinthians 14:4,”He that speaks in an unknown tongue, EDIFIES HIMSELF….” Paul said in Romans 8:11,”But if the Spirit of him that raised Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies, BY HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLS IN YOU.” That is referring to being raised up to meet Jesus in the air at the Rapture which is referred to in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, which Paul also wrote. If a person has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit, which is how the Spirit of Christ INITIALLY comes to dwell in them, they will not have that Spirit to go up to meet Jesus in the air, and therefore not be saved. Paul said in Galatians 3:27,”For as many of you as have been BAPTIZED into Christ, HAVE PUT ON CHRIST”, which fits in with Romans 8:11. In other words the only way to put on Christ is to get baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit which means speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance. Jesus said in John 3:5-7,”Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born of water AND of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of God 7 You MUST be born again.” Being born of water is being immersed in water in Jesus name, meaning Jesus name is said at baptism, which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7-8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16, which all of those is for the REMISSION OF SIN, meaning the initial remission of sin and not the confessing of sin addressed in 1 John 1:9, which is 18 Chapters AFTER the book of Acts. Being born of the Spirit is being baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit. Just before Jesus ascended into heaven he said Mark 16:16,”He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be saved but he that believes not shall be damned”, which answers whether baptism needed or not. When Jesus disciples baptized in Jesus name they were doing exactly what Jesus told them to do in Matthew 28:19,”Go therefore and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost.” Father is a title and not a name, Son is a title and not a name, Holy Ghost is a title and not a name. Malachi 3:6,”For I am the LORD, I change not…..” Hebrews 13:8,”Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.” Those mean there is no reason for a person to think that Jesus will make an exception and save a person that has not been baptized in water in Jesus name and that has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit. Please scroll down and read my post about hell on Nov. 9, 2018, which all of those scriptures are the exact words of Jesus himself – they describe what happens to a person that does not get baptized in Jesus name and doesn’t get baptized with the Holy Ghost.

        DaveS

  13. Jean Ring

    I love what was said today on your show. I’m 60 yrs. I recieved Jesus as my lord and savior at 25 and got the water baptism then. In pass of my life i walked away from Christ but repented and ask the Lord back in my life. Do I still need to do the water baptism again???

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Jean,

      This is a question, I would ask you to pray and seek the Lord about. The bible say to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    • Doug Norvell

      Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

      Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
      16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

      In the scriptures above, Jesus said repentance and baptism in His name are the gospel. Paul said the gospel that saves us is 1 Corinthians 15 : Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
      So the gospel that saves you is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
      Peter told us how to obey the death, burial and resurrection. Repentance=Death to self, baptism in Jesus=Burial(Romans 6:3-4), Holy Ghost= Resurrection (Romans 8:11)
      Peter, who was filled with the Holy Ghost said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.(Acts 2:38-39).

      Notice, this is for everyone who the Lord will call. Repentance and Baptism in Jesus name for the remission of sins and then you shall receive the Holy Ghost.

      Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.
      This scripture is true, without faith you would not obey the gospel. If you look at chapter 1 of Ephesians you read who this letter is addressed to:
      Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise.

      Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration(Baptism), and renewing of the Holy Ghost(receiving the Holy Ghost)

      • I want to add that if you are convinced you need to be baptized in Jesus Name and be baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit – please do a search and type in
        “United Pentecostal Church International”. When on the website at the bottom of the Home page, type in your City and Zip Code, then a screen will show Churches near you that will do that, and that includes places most anywhere in the world. Paul said in Corinthians 2:9,”But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath in store for those that love him.” And Jesus said in John 14:15,”If you love me, keep my commandments”, and He said in John 14:21,”He that has my commandments and keeps them, he it is that loves me and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself unto him”, and He said in Mark 16:16,”He that BELIEVES AND IS BAPTIZED shall be saved, but he that believes not shall be damned.” And as is stated in the scriptures above, every time Jesus disciples baptized anyone in water they said Jesus name at baptism.
        DaveS

  14. The following is some scriptures about hell by Jesus himself and how to not go there:
    In Luke 16:19-31 Jesus describes a rich man that lived lavishly and a poor beggar man named Lazarus. It came to pass that Lazarus died and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom. The rich man died, was buried, then went to hell. (23) And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in TORMENT, saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented IN THIS FLAME. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received good things, and likewise Lazarus received evil things, but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you can not, neither can they pass to us, and would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray you therefore father, that you would send him to my father’s house. 28 For I have 5 brothers that he may testify unto them, lest also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
    LOCATION OF HELL: Jesus said in Matthew 12:40,”For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the HEART OF THE EARTH.” Paul said in Ephesians 4:9,”Now that he ascended, was it but that he also DESCENDED into the LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH.”
    HELL IS A PLACE OF FIRE: Jesus said in Luke 16:24,”….Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue for I am TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME.” Jesus said in Matthew 13:42,”And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE, there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.” Jesus said in Matthew 25:41,”Then shall he also say to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels.”
    Jesus said in Revelation 20:15,”And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.”
    HELL IS A PLACE OF TORMENT: Jesus said in Luke 16:23,”And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENT….” (24) …..for I am TORMENTED in this flame.” Jesus said in Revelation 14:11,”And the smoke of their TORMENT ascended up FOR EVER AND EVER, and they have no rest day or night….” Jesus said in Mark 9:45-46,”And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off, it is better for you to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED. 46 Where their WORM DIES NOT, and the fire is not quenched.” Note that it doesn’t say “THE Worm”, it says “THEIR WORM” dies not. Jesus said in Revelation 21:8,”But the fearful and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whore mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, which is the second death.” Note that brimstone is Sulfur and burns with a very strong odor of rotten eggs.
    The scriptures above prove when a person goes to hell they will constantly see hell, constantly smell hell, constantly feel the heat of hell, will constantly breath hell, will constantly hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth of others in hell, will constantly be aware of their own worms, they will have no rest day or night, there is no way out and it will continue for ever and ever, they can’t die because they are already dead.
    The following is how to not go there: Most of the large Church groups say that a person is saved when they become a believer in God and Jesus Christ and that the Holy Spirit indwells them immediately when they become a believer. Most of the TV Evangelists say that all a person needs to do to be saved is say the “Sinner’s Prayer” – but the following proves that is not true: Just before Jesus ascended into heaven he told his disciples in Matthew 28:19,”Go ye therefore and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them in the name OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost.” Father is a title and not a name, Son is a title and not a name, Holy is an adjective, and Ghost is a noun. At no time did Jesus disciples ever baptize in water using any combination of the words Father, Son, or Holy Ghost, or ever use those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. Jesus said in Mark 16:16,”He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED, but he that believes not shall be DAMNED.” Every time Jesus disciples baptized anyone they immersed them in water in Jesus name – meaning they said Jesus name at baptism, which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7-8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16. Peter was asked by the people in Acts 2:37 what they needed to do to be SAVED, and he said in Acts 2:38-39,”Repent and be BAPTIZED every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, and you shall receive the GIFT of the Holy Ghost. (39) For the PROMISE is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.” Peter later said in 1 Peter 3:21,”The like

    figure where unto even BAPTISM DOES ALSO NOW SAVE US…..”
    Jesus said in Mark 16:17,”And these signs shall follow them that believe, In my name shall they cast out devils, THEY SHALL SPEAK WITH NEW TONGUES…..” Acts 2:3-4 at
    Pentecost,”And there appeared unto them cloven TONGUES as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. (4) AND THEY WERE FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST, and they began to SPEAK IN OTHER TONGUES AS THE SPIRIT GAVE UTTERANCE.” Every time after that when people receiving the Holy Ghost is mentioned it states they spoke in tongues as the Spirit gave utterance, which is Acts 2:3-4, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-6. Every time except one, which is Acts 10:44-48 and Peter immediately told Cornelius and those with him to be baptized in Jesus name. Every time when people received the Holy Ghost, except 2:3-4, it was received by the LAYING ON OF HANDS: Acts 8:17-19,”Then they LAID THEIR HANDS ON THEM, and they received the Holy Ghost. (18) And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles hands the HOLY GHOST WAS GIVEN, he offered them money. (19) Saying, Give me also this power, that on whosoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.” Paul said in Galatians 1:12 that he was not taught by any man but was taught directly by Jesus Christ himself, which means that whatever Paul said and did was exactly what Jesus told him to do. In Acts 9:17 Ananias laid hands on Paul so he could receive the Holy Ghost, later in Acts 19:6,”And when Paul laid his hands upon them (which was 12 BELIEVERS) the Holy Ghost came on them, and they SPOKE WITH TONGUES and prophesied.” Paul said in 1st Corinthians 14:2,”For he that speaks in an unknown tongue, speaks not unto men, BUT UNTO GOD, for no man understands him, howbeit in the SPIRIT he speaks mysteries.” Paul said in 1st Corinthians 14:21-39,”In the law it is written, With men of other TONGUES and other lips will I speak unto this people, yet for all that THEY WILL NOT HEAR ME, saith the Lord. 22 Wherefore TONGUES are for a SIGN (or PROOF they received the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit). Verse 39,”Wherefore brethren covet to prophesy, and FORBID NOT TO SPEAK WITH TONGUES.” Paul said in 1st Corinthians 14:4,”He that speaks in an unknown TONGUE EDIFIES HIMSELF….”
    The following scriptures prove that when a person receives the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit, the SPIRIT OF JESUS dwells in them at that moment, and that Spirit identifies them to be raised up at the Rapture, which is Thessalonians 4:16-18, which Paul also wrote. Paul said in Romans 8:11,”But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also QUICKEN your mortal bodies, by HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLS IN YOU.” Paul said in Galatians 3:27,”For as many of you as have been BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST.” Paul said in Galatians 1:8-9,”But though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that you have received, let him be accursed.” Paul was so adamant about that, that he repeated himself in verse 9,”As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that you have received, let him be ACCURSED.”
    All the scriptures above prove if a person has not been baptized in Jesus name and has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit and spoke in Tongues as the Spirit gives utterance – that person does not have the Holy Ghost, and
    therefore is not going anywhere at the Rapture, and therefore not be saved. All the above is exactly what Jesus meant when he

    said in John 3:7,”You MUST be born again.” He said in John 3:5,”Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born of water
    AND of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of God.” Being born of water is being baptized in water in Jesus name, being born of the Spirit is receiving the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit. Note that Jesus said a person must be BOTH baptized in Jesus name, AND be baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit, which means speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance. Since Jesus disciples laid hands on people to receive the Holy Ghost, a person must SEEK it by going to a Church, or to a group of people that baptizes in water in Jesus name, and lays hands on them to receive the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit. To do that is a very SIMPLE and EASY thing to do and you will be making sure you are putting your name in the Lamb’s Book Of Life. Any Catholic Church will not do it because they condemn baptism in Jesus name and declared it to be INVALID in the New Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume 2, page 66, the Catholic Encyclopedia, also in the Catholic Catechism 232, 233, 1226-1228, also in Chapter 7 of the 16 Chapter Catholic Didache – there is no such thing as Catholic Purgatory, Paul said in Hebrews 9:27,”And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.” Any Protestant Church says baptism was not done in Jesus name, or that water baptism is not needed to be saved, and that a person receives the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit the moment they become a believer – which all of the above proves is false.
    Numbers 23:19,”God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent, has he said and shall he not do it? And shall he not make it good?”
    Malachi 3:6,”For I am the Lord, I change not…”
    Hebrews 13:8,”Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.” That means there is no reason to think or believe
    that Jesus will make an exception and save someone that has not been baptized in water in Jesus name, and has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.
    Jesus said John 10:27,”My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”
    DaveS

  15. The correct translation of John 3: 3-7 is NOT ‘ born again ‘ – tht is the demonic wrecking…. The correct words are ” UNLESS you are BORN FROM ABOVE [ by the FATHER – as it is HE who places HIS SPIRIT into those HE approves of – and then Gives them additional miracles of happening !]
    So – could you please correct your Bible [ KJ is a shocker – so-o full of terrible errors ] —???
    and tell this TRUTH to your readers ??? . Our people of the 12 Tribes of Jacob, are so-o ignorant as to what is going on about them, and WHO are the perpetrators of such EVILS !!!! They dont even know WHO their enemy is !!!! now I’ll read what you have to say on this subject… bye now..

  16. Jesus said in John 14:15,”If you love me keep my commandments”, He also said in John 14:21,”He that has my commandments and keeps them, he it is that loves me, and he that loves me shall be beloved of my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself unto him.” Jesus said in Mark 16:16,”He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be saved, but he that believes not shall be damned”, which that answers if baptism is needed or not. At about that same time Jesus said in Matthew 28:19,,”Go therefore and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost.” Father is a title and not a name, Son is a title and not a name, Holy Ghost is a tittle and not a name. Every time Jesus disciples baptized anyone in water was in Jesus name, meaning they said Jesus name at baptism, which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 9:17-18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16. At no time did Jesus disciples ever use the words Father, Son, and Holy Ghost when they baptized anyone, nor did they use those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. The only doctrine that Jesus disciples preached was repentance, water baptism in Jesus name, and being baptized with the Holy Ghost, which is exactly what Jesus meant in John 3:5-7,”Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born of water AND of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of God.” Verse 7 “You MUST be born again.” Being born of water is water baptism in Jesus name, being born of the Spirit is being baptized with the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit, which is addressed in Acts 2:4, Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, and Acts 10:44-48.
    If you are convinced you need to be baptized in Jesus name and be baptized with the Holy Ghost, please do a search and type in “United Pentecostal Church International”, then type in your city and state. Then a map of your area will be on your screen that shows the Churches in your area that will do that.
    Catholic Churches will not do it because they condemn water baptism in Jesus name, declared it invalid, and they used the word “INVALID” in the New Catholic Encyclopedia Volume 2 page 66, and also in the Catholic Catechism 232, 233, and 1226-1284, and also Chapter 7 of the 16 Chapter Didache. Protestant Churches won’t do because they say water baptism is not needed and it wasn’t done in Jesus name, but the scriptures above prove it was done in Jesus name.
    DaveS

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Virginia,

      Many people believe that all they need is to believe. Belief is important, but not the only thing we need. Jesus Himself said many people would come to Him and say Lord, Lord. But in the end He said He knew them not. Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
      24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock.

      We are told what we need to do in the book of Acts 2:38 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

      Notice, this wasn’t one time for just the Jews standing there on the day of Pentecost, the scripture says it is for all whom the Lord God shall call. This means from the day Peter said it until the day Jesus returns. So Repentance and water baptism in Jesus Name (not the Titles Father, Son and Holy Ghost) and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. This message is echoed throughout the book of Acts. Chapters 8,10,11,19 just to name a few.

      In the book of Romans Paul tells us that Baptism is being Buried with Jesus into His death. It also say to be planted together with him. Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

      Planted and buried is to be put under and covered up. This is what our baptism should resemble. In Acts 8 Peter and the eunuch both went down into the water and both came up out of the water.

  17. Erik Emerson

    Hello!

    Love your program and have read “What do you mean, Born Again?” on your website. I have a question for you regarding baptism. You subscribe to the opinion that immersion is the only proper mode of baptism as does John MacArthur. Personally I find that position to be more persuasive myself but here’s my situation and question. I was born and raised into the Roman Catholic faith and as such, I was baptized as an infant. About 20 years ago I left the Catholic Church and became what you might call a non-denominational Christian. I have been attending a church now for about 12 years or so that has ties to the Presbyterian denomination (PCA). There was a sign-up recently for classes that would conclude with a Sunday service baptism of the people in the class. Since it is Presbyterian, naturally the mode will be sprinkling. I voiced my concern to the pastor about this in an email and included a link to a sermon that John MacArthur gave on this subject This was my pastor’s response:

    Thank you for being a part of DCC. I look forward to our lunch and discussion this coming Sunday. I hope the discussion will not be a disappointment to you. In the class we will have people all over the map spiritually speaking. Some will need clarification of the gospel, others not so much. I will be briefly discussing mode of baptism, however, I will not be spending a lot of time on it. I appreciate and respect Dr. MacArthur, however I find that I sometimes disagree with him regarding things like baptism and his views of the charismatic gifts. He is a reformed baptist theologically. His arguments surrounding mode and meaning of baptism are the typical arguments every Baptist has made since the late 1600’s. The problem with their view I believe, is that they deny the efficacy of any mode of baptism except immersion and they mistakenly translate the greek word for baptism (baptizo) as always meaning immerse. This translation is mistaken, and ignores many etymological facts. For example, in the 3rd century BC the word baptizo was used to translate the Old Testament from Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek and in that translation baptizo is used to translate the ideas of pouring, immersing, dipping and sprinkling. The claim that baptists have always made regarding the meaning of the word baptizo is just etymologically false. What is more the claim that the early church only practiced immersion is just not true. We know from archeological evidence that churches as early as the late 200’s practiced pouring, immersion and sprinkling as modes of baptism. This being the case, we accept immersion, pouring and sprinkling as acceptable, valid modes of baptism. Baptists accept only immersion. We simply disagree with our Baptist brothers and sisters.

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    A few years ago I attempted to find a church that did immersion baptisms and asked if it was possible to be baptized there without actually becoming a member of their church. (I really don’t have any reason to leave my present church since it otherwise is a very good church with sound doctrine). I never received a reply to my inquiry. I’m still debating what I should do but in the meantime, here is my question:

    If I (or anybody for that matter) should die having only been baptized as an infant, does that mean that I have never been ‘born again’ which then means that I’m not a true Christian which then means that I die in my sins and am outside God’s kingdom forever?

    Thanks for your help.

    Erik

    • Doug Norvell

      Hello Erik,

      We should not look at the what was done as early as 200 AD. We need to look at the book of Acts. The book of Acts is the history of the church, the true church and not man made traditions that Paul warned us about in Colossians 2. The Acts of the Apostles are given to us to understand what we should do.
      Acts 2 they are were filled with the Holy Ghost and Peter full of the Holy Ghost gave the command. Acts 2:38 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

      Notice Peter said to be baptized in the name of JESUS for the remission/removal of your sins and then you shall receive the Holy Ghost. Just like the Apostles did. But then it goes on to say this is for ALL, as many as the Lord God shall call. So this is the plan from that day until the day Jesus comes back.

      So this is the gospel that the Apostles taught to every person and it is the gospel today, it hasn’t changed. So having said that look at Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

      Philip and the Eunuch were reading from Isaiah 53, Philip taught the gospel of Jesus from this scripture. The is no mention of Baptism in Isaiah 53, yet the Eunuch knew from what Philip taught, that he needed to be born of the water and the Spirit. So, notice they both went down into the water and they both came up out of the water. They could have just got a hand full and sprinkled it on his head, if that was all that was required. They didn’t do that, they went down into the water.

      Paul said in Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
      4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.

      Notice the wording, buried and planted. When have you ever seen a person buried by sprinkling a little dirt on them or have you ever planted a plant and just sprinkled a little dirt on top of it. No, you put it under the ground. When you go under the water in the name of Jesus(not titles, father, son and holy ghost) but under the name that is above all names, the name that the Bible says “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” Then and only then is the blood of Jesus applied to our sins and we receive a paid in full promise made on Calvary.

      This is what we must do to be saved. So heed Paul’s warning; Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

      • Beverly Breaux

        Thief on Cross was not baptized. Not church membership, not baptism, not works, not intellectual “belief” (devils have that) — but Relationship with God, Jesus, Holy Spirit. Just invite Jesus into your heart, surrender your life to Him = born again, saved, new creation, instant change of final destination from hell to heaven — guaranteed! Glory to God! Amen.

        • Doug Norvell

          Hello Beverly,

          Yes you are correct the thief on the cross was not baptized. At this point Jesus was alive and had not died and been resurrected and the Holy Spirit had not been given yet, so the dispensation of the Law was still in effect. The salvation that Peter and the apostle’s taught was the “Born Again” plan of salvation. They had to wait until they received the Holy Ghost to begin there ministry. On that day Peter filled with the Holy Ghost said this: Acts 2: 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

          You see that baptism is for the remission of your sins, the blood of Jesus is applied at baptism and your sins are removed. Without it, your sins remain. This is why baptism in the Name of Jesus is for the remission, His blood paid our sin price. When we are buried with Jesus in baptism, we are buried into His death and raised to new life. The Bible also says this is for “ALL” that the Lord God shall call. This is the plan of salvation that God had from the beginning of the creation and it is the plan until Jesus comes back.

          • martha malepe

            Amen Dough Novell,no one can teach a word of God without the Spirit of God,people teach their own gospel,God is faithful i like the way you explained the thieve on the cross, people want the Kingdom of God the eazy way, their way, they dont want to deny themselves,and no one can mock God, because they only deceiving themselves,God bless you and more wisdom to you,you opened my eyes

          • Chrystal Butler

            I am still not clear on the Thief on the cross. I understand that salvation had not yet been given because Jesus had not completed his divine mission, so what is the justification on the thief not being baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost. I just want a clear understanding.

          • Doug Norvell

            Hello Chrystal,

            Under the Law a person had to go to the high priest and have a blood sacrifice offered for his sin. This had to be done year after year. But the Thief recognizing who Jesus was ask Him to forgive his sins. Jesus the sacrificial lamb of God was shedding His perfect blood, one time for all time. Jesus also being our High Priest making atonement for our sins, told the forgave the thief on the cross. Once Jesus died and was resurrected and was glorified, the plan of Salvation was put in place. And now this plan is what we must do to be saved. The blood of Jesus is applied to our lives and removes our sins at baptism in Jesus name.

            Hebrews 9 explains this better than I can.