Propaganda vs. Promise: Why Israel Stands—and Will Always Stand

Dave Robbins: On today’s edition
of “The Endtime Show,” Hananya
Naftali, Israel Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu’s social
media advisor, and I dive into
Israel’s frontline security
challenges, the global media war
shaping public opinion, and
what’s truly at stake in the
US-Israeli alliance.
We’ll also explore the future of
regional peace and the faith and
conviction that drive Hananya to
speak out boldly on the
world stage.
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Dave: Hananya Naftali is a
prominent Israeli speaker and
influencer in the fight against
anti-Semitism, terrorism, and
the assault on the
state of Israel.
With over 3 million followers
across social media, Hananya
brings the truth about Israel
to millions worldwide.
And Hananya has been working
with Prime Minister Netanyahu in
his digital team for
the past six years.
Hananya served in the Israeli
army, fought Hamas during the
Gaza war in 2014, he treated
Syrian wounded civilians as a
combat medic, and today he
defends Israel in the
international arena.
Hananya, welcome to
“The Endtime Show.”
Hananya Naftali: Thank you so
much for having me, and Shalom
from Israel.
Dave: Amen, and all of our
listeners know, Hananya, and
this is very important, that
Endtime Ministries is hyper
pro-Israel, and we love Israel
from the biblical perspective,
and you know, historical,
archaeological, and so we’re
right on the same page here, and
I wanted to have you on to clear
up many of the false narratives
that the international
community, the news media, and
many very influential social
media influencers are putting
out now, like a Tucker Carlson,
a Candace Owens, people like
that, and there are many people
that there are millions of
followers with them, but I want
to clear up some of the
false narratives.
Before I get into some of those
specific questions, big news at
the UN Security Council,
over the last few days.
They just approved the Gaza
peace deal, this 20-point plan
of US President Trump, and Prime
Minister Netanyahu, it says from
“The Jerusalem Post” that he has
praised the UN Security Council
veto–or the UN Security
Council’s vote to
implement this.
However, in the 20-point plan,
point 19 and 20 almost looks
like they’re trying to allow or
to position this thing to point
towards a future Palestinian
state, but Prime Minister
Netanyahu has said we will never
have a Palestinian state, so how
would you tie all
this together here?
Hananya: Look, I have to say, if
you ask most Israelis, and it
was also reflected in the
Israeli parliament in our
Knesset, there was a vote on
whether or not we wanna support
the creation of a Palestinian
state, and the vast majority,
including people who are not in
the current coalition, they
voted overwhelmingly against.
I think it was 99 votes out of
the 120 members of the Knesset.
But, Dave, I have to say that,
as an Israeli and as a believer
in the Bible, I strongly oppose
the creation of a Palestinian
state, because it’s–we gave
them a chance, we gave them a
chance in Gaza, we pulled out of
the Gaza Strip completely
in 2005.
And we said, listen, you guys,
we want nothing to do with you.
You go and govern yourself, and
look what we got out of this.
We got rockets, we got terror
attacks, we got buses exploding
in Israel during the
second Intifada.
So, clearly, the Palestinians
are incapable of running a state
with all the corrupt leaders
that they have that pocket money
into their own bank accounts, so
I oppose the creation of a
Palestinian state.
I think that it’s not something
that can ever happen.
It would endanger
our existence here.
And also, it’s not biblical,
I have to say.
Dave: Yes, that’s absolutely
true, because God told Moses
when you go into that land, you
inhabit the land, you possess
the land, you drive out the
heathen, tear down their high
places, and if only Israel in
1967 had destroyed the Al-Aqsa
Mosque and the Dome of the Rock,
man, what a turning point that
would have been.
But you know, obviously, it’s
still up there on the
Temple Mount.
I wish it wasn’t there, but
we’ll see what the future holds
and all of that.
Because it looked–I was just
there a couple of weeks ago, and
it seemed like–so I’ve been
there on–I’ve been to Israel
between 20 and 30 times, and
every time I go up on the Temple
Mount, there were–the Muslim
walk would just be right there
listening to what I had to say,
and I had to, you know, really
be careful, but this time when I
was there a couple weeks ago, we
had the entire Temple Mount to
our ourselves except for the
Israeli police for an hour
and a half.
Our tour group was just by
ourself up there, and it seems
like the status quo is kind of
changing up on the Temple Mount,
especially because of Ben-Gvir
and people like that.
Hananya: Look, I have to say in
comment to what you said, I’m
not in favor of destroying
anything or anybody.
I don’t have a problem with the
Palestinian people.
I don’t have a problem
with Muslims.
I mean, I’m in favor of
coexistence, but what I strongly
have a–I do have a problem
with radicalism, and I don’t
think we should tolerate
radicalism.
But you know, in that regard, I
have to say that the American
Christian Zionists, you can
count on people like me here in
the land of Israel to be sure to
speak a biblical truth, and even
when it’s not going to get
popular, I will still continue
to speak the biblical truth that
this is the ancestral homeland
of the Jewish people.
If you want to exist here with
us, you’re more than welcome,
but we are not going to afraid
you telling us that we don’t
have the right to exist here.
But, you know, I do have to say
in reference to the Six Day War
that you pointed out, that
that’s a war that we had.
Israel won overwhelmingly and
miraculously in six days,
defeated several armies
that he dealt with.
You know, but then the term
Palestine and Palestinian all of
a sudden was created in one day,
because I just talked about
it actually.
It’s really interesting in
between the years, Dave, 1948 to
1967, the Jordanians controlled
Judea and Samaria.
The Egyptians controlled
the Gaza Strip.
That’s about 19 years, almost
a whole generation.
They didn’t think not for one
second to create a
Palestinian state.
Why?
Because there were no–there was
not a Palestinian identity.
This was born the day after
Israel defeated its enemies in
order to stand against
this entity of Israel.
So that’s what’s it all about,
to be honest, the existence
of Israel.
Dave: Yeah, the Arabs there have
been offered a state many, many
times with the partition plan in
’47, and many times they’ve been
offered a state, and they’ve
rejected it every single time.
But the international community
just pushes and drives, and now
I think that of the 193 voting
members of the United Nations,
over 150 of them have just–you
know, France just came out at
the General Assembly in
September and recognized
Palestine as a state, but
they’ve rejected it every time
they’ve been offered that, so
it’s just a crazy narrative
that’s playing out here, and
it’s just–it’s really–
Yeah, it’s just propaganda, and
you know, thankfully there are
people like you that are telling
the truth, yeah.
Hananya: Yeah, no, I just have
to jump in and say, do you know,
can anyone name one group that,
you know, aspires to, you know,
for independence and for
recognition, and yet they keep
rejecting every offer for
independence and recognition?
Because the question is if you
want recognition so badly, so
just like you said, why do they
keep rejecting every offer?
We offered the Arabs in ’37, in
’47, in 2000, 2001, 2008.
So many offers, some of them
were very generous, made by
left-wing Israeli prime
ministers, and yet they kept
rejecting it, because the answer
is very simple.
It’s not about land, it’s not
about borders, it’s simply about
me, my people existing in our
ancestral home, just like
God commanded.
He said we are going to return
back home, and guess what, when
God says something, you cannot
move that promise that he
gave us.
Dave: Absolutely, one more
question, and then we’ll move on
from what just happened over the
last few days with this
establishment of a board of
peace and this UN Security
Council veto, or this vote.
It says they will establish an
international stabilization
force with many nations coming
in there to help stabilize that.
Would Prime Minister–if they
were to get it stabilized and
everything works for, you know,
a year or two or whatever, and
because they said it’s gonna go
to like 2027, if that was to
work, and then they said, well,
Prime Minister Netanyahu or
whoever is in the prime minister
at that point, this could also
work as a Palestinian state,
would you be for that at that
point if it was the same–if
they said we’ll do a
stabilization force over all the
region there, would Israel be
willing to trade land for
peace at that point?
Hananya: Look, just like the
prime minister said, he opposes
any Palestinian state in what
they call the West Bank, and we
call it Judea and Samaria.
But if we look at the facts on
the ground, they can’t even
manage their own streets, their
own corruption, their own pay–
You know, it’s a basic question
the human beings that are
watching us right now.
Doesn’t matter if you’re
American, doesn’t matter how do
you define yourself.
Here’s my question to you, would
you support anyone to govern a
group of people if they have
a program where they
pay terrorists?
They say if you kill a Jew, the
more Jews you kill, the more
money you’ll get.
We’ll take care of your family,
don’t worry about it, just go
and kill Jews.
So that’s that program.
They did not get rid of it.
It still exists as we are
speaking right now.
So, look, they can’t even
run their own streets.
They’re just corrupt.
So, it’s some–it’s
just ridiculous.
And by the way, getting back to
my point, they don’t really want
a state, because if they really
wanted a state, they would have
agreed to other offers that
were presented to them.
But the international point that
you were talking about about
international forces that would
maybe be in the future control
parts of the Gaza Strip, look,
Hamas just recently, and also
after this United Nations vote
in favor of Trump’s peace plan,
they said we are not
going to disarm.
You guys are all living in one
big dream, so I think that
unless if we use–you know, the
point is that the only way we
can achieve peace is when the
word Hamas is erased from the
dictionary, it does not exist,
not in the Gaza Strip.
The only term that Hamas should
stand for, it’s defeat and evil,
that’s it.
Dave: I totally agree with you,
and then one more point, and
then I’ll move on from this.
The only thing that I fear, and
I totally agree with you, you
guys, I agree with you on
everything, but the only thing
that I fear is that you said
something about there have been
liberal prime ministers that
have offered Palestinian–been
very generous and offered them
just almost everything they
wanted, in a future government,
let’s say Prime Minister
Netanyahu moves off the scene,
we get somebody like an Ehud
Olmert or somebody like that
back in there, and this
stabilization force is in place,
and the international
community’s pressuring them.
I fear that there may be a
future liberal prime minister of
Israel that may capitulate to
that and allow them to have a
Palestinian state.
I hope and pray it doesn’t
happen, but I fear that that
could happen in the future.
Hananya: That’s a plausible
scenario, but you know, I have
to say this is a point
to pray for Israel.
Obviously, I consider myself
to be conservative.
I think that, you know, being,
standing for what I stand.
People may call it radical, but
this is simply biblical.
This is what, you know, it’s
actually radical to think that
you can call yourself a
“liberal,” but then when you
hear an opinion that it’s
different from yours, then you
demand them to, you
know, to be quiet.
That’s what they’re doing to us
here in Israel, the woke here
in Israel.
That’s what they’re doing
to you in America.
They say if you think–if you
support Israel, if you stand for
the Bible, if you call yourself
a Christian, then please
keep quiet.
You don’t have the right to
express your opinion.
It’s not true liberalism, but
the point is, in Israel, we have
had left-wing prime ministers.
I think that we do need to
pray for Israel.
I’m, you know, most Israelis, I
would say, right now are very
supportive of the current
Prime Minister, Netanyahu.
I mean, look, he eliminated
Nasrallah that said that we are
a web of–a spider web that can
be easily destroyed, and that we
are an iron web.
And I, you know, he struck the
nuclear sites in Iran, we’re
dismantling Hamas, targeting the
Houthis, so obviously, I think
that his support is
very high right now.
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Dave: Let’s talk about
Israel’s security and defense
very quickly.
I told you that I was there when
the Gaza situation, October 7th,
when Hamas invaded, killed, you
know, 1,200-plus people, took
250 hostages, and it just
happened, it went for two years.
It was horrific, and I know that
you have been a very outspoken
individual, a voice for, you
know, pro-Israel on this
situation, but as far as the
Israeli defense forces in the
Gaza situation in the West Bank,
so many false narratives.
In your view, what is the most
misunderstood aspects of the
IDF’s operations in Gaza
or the West Bank?
Hananya: Look, it’s
actually quite simple.
They portray us like we are the
villain, but you know, actually,
we are the front line defending
against the villains.
So, you know, it may sound crazy
to say that, especially, you
know, if people are very–call
themselves progressive and
liberal and left-wing.
Israel, we are actually the good
guys in this story and–I have
to say–just because we are
strong doesn’t make us the bad
guys, doesn’t make us the
villain, and just because Hamas
is losing the war, that doesn’t
make them the victim.
But you know, I understand that
we are in an era where if you
lose a war–and it doesn’t
matter if you raped our people,
if you invaded, that you
butchered, and you invaded the
kibbutzim and the homes.
I’m sure you’ve seen that,
the aftermath.
If you lost, then in the–
according to the math of the
liberal agenda, then you’re
automatically a victim.
But, you know, I’m glad that my
country is strong, and we are
done apologizing for
being strong.
God said, you know, throughout
history we’ve seen empire after
empire that tried to
erase the Jews.
We’ve seen groups after groups
that every generation of Jews
faced evil.
And I have to say at the end of
the day, we know how the story
has ended and how the story
is going to end.
Just like a Holocaust survivor
told me, you know, empire after
empire, they try to erase us,
but at the end of the day, here
we are standing at the graveyard
of our persecutors.
So I just have to say it’s not a
good idea to stand against the
God of Israel.
Dave: Amen, and and I agree 110%
that God–the God of Israel
said, “I’m gonna bring all of
the Jews where they’ve scattered
throughout the whole world,”
Ezekiel chapter 36, 37.
“I’m gonna bring them all back,
I’m gonna establish them in
their homeland, and once I do
that, they’re never gonna be
erased from that
homeland again.”
And so, there are many people
have tried, but they’ve all
failed, my friend.
And so thankful that we have
God’s promises behind us in the
Bible to back it all up,
which is God’s Word.
I’m so thankful for that.
So with that said, I want to get
into some of the media, the
propaganda, the public opinion,
because you’re, like I said,
you’re just a–you’re very
articulate in just bringing out
the truth in all this stuff, and
this is why I was so excited for
this interview.
The–how do you just–I’m
gonna ask you a few questions,
and then you tell me how you
would respond, because, you
know, like I said, there’s a
Tucker Carlson and a Candace
Owens that are just spreading–
I don’t know what happened.
They used to be really staunch
supporters of Israel, and
something–they just
turned on a dime.
I don’t know what happened to
them, but I want you to give the
true narratives of this.
How would you respond to these
social media claims or on
different platforms that Israel
has no right to exist as
a state.
Hananya: You know, that reminds
me of the, you know, the same
people often say, Look, I don’t
have a problem with the Jewish
people, I just have a
problem with Israel.
I just have a problem with–I’m
anti-Zionist, I’m not anti-Jew,
but you know, it’s just like
saying, Oh no, I don’t have a
problem with Christians, I just
have a problem with their faith.
You know, it just doesn’t
make any sense.
But you know, we–just like I
said, we don’t need to apologize
for existing in our homeland.
I think that a lot of people
forget that God is a God of love
and grace–that is true–but
he’s also the God of justice and
the god of war.
It says in, I think, in Exodus
14:14, it says, “I will fight
for you,” you know?
So let’s not forget that he’s
the God of peace, but he’s also
the god of war.
Now, with that being said, I’m
not advocating for war.
I’m not, you know, I
served in the army.
Trust me, there is–we would
much rather ask the Israeli
soldiers, we would much rather
be at home with our families
enjoying lunch together, dinner
together, Shabbat together, than
to be stationed on the front
line, on the border, away
from home.
But you know, we understand that
if we don’t get the job done,
then no one’s gonna get the job
done for us, and I think that’s
where we’re different–we are
different from America’s other
allies, because, yes, we are
allies, yes, America stands with
Israel, but we have to remember,
Israel never asked from America
to send boots on the ground.
We never asked for
anything like that.
Prime Minister Netanyahu
actually said it very clearly,
we want to get the job done, and
we don’t ask for you to send
your troops.
Just like Iran, they share this
propaganda that a lot of US
troops are going to die, there’s
going to be World War III when
Israel is striking Iran.
So at the end of the day, the
enemies of Israel, I think, were
reminded in this multi-front war
that you can try to hurt Israel,
but what you’re really facing up
against is the God of Israel,
and that’s not a good idea
to fight our God.
Dave: Exactly, and when Tucker
Carlson was interviewing Ted
Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz from
Texas here, he said that–Ted
Cruz says, Well, I was always
taught Genesis chapter 12 verse
3, “I’m gonna–Abraham, I’ll
bless them that bless you, I’ll
curse them that curse you,” and
Tucker Carlson immediately
attacked him and saying, well,
who are you supporting?
Are you supporting Netanyahu?
Why is the United States giving
so much money to the government
of Israel?
Who exactly are you supporting?
What would you say to Tucker
Carlson if he said, Hananya, you
know, why should people around
the world support Israel
or Christians?
What would you say to that?
Why should Christians in
America support Israel?
Hananya: You know, first of all,
I would tell Tucker, I’m praying
for you.
I don’t have hate in my heart
for you, and I think that it’s
very important for all of us to
not–for our passion to not
stem from hatred or anger.
Same thing with my
defense of Israel.
I don’t do that because
I hate Palestinians.
I think hate just leads to more
anger, to more conflict.
I don’t believe in that.
But, you know, the reason
Christians support Israel, it’s
becaus–those Christians
who support Israel,
including you, Dave, including
the people that are watching and
listening to us, it’s because
they did something just genius,
and it’s so revolutionary.
Let me tell you about it.
They opened their Bible, and
they said, you know what?
I wanna learn about God’s heart.
Forget about Israel, forget
about Netanyahu, forget about
any liberal agenda,
forget about all of that.
I’m gonna open my Bible, and I’m
gonna learn about my faith.
And guess what?
I heard this from Christians who
told me, you know, “I used to
hate Israel, and when I was born
again, when I rediscovered my
faith, something happened.
I started to feel love in
my heart for Israel.”
And one lady told me, “At
first I was so confused.
What does that have to do
with loving Israel?”
You know, but the more she read
her Bible, the more she
understood that God
chose Israel.
There’s nothing we
can do about it.
Listen, if you ask Israelis
about Israel, they’ll be the the
first one in line to have a
lot to criticize Israel
for–for everything.
So, you know, standing with
Israel, you need to understand,
we all need to understand, that
does not mean that you give a
green light for everything and
you turn a blind eye
to everything.
Standing with Israel,
it’s deeper than that.
Governments come and go, leaders
come and go, but at the end of
the day, Israel is a symbol.
It’s a symbol of God staying
true to his promises, because
God made so many promises to
Israel that, you know, it’s just
unbelievable that
they came true.
So, I think Israel today stands
as a witness of God’s miracles
that he made all of that true.
But I have to say the most
important thing, our, your
Messiah, you know, speaking to
Tucker or to Candace, if they
call themselves Christian, your
Messiah is a Jew, you know?
So when you say Christ
is king, thank you.
You know, you are saying
a Jew is your King.
So, I’m not sure, you know,
that’s actually very surprising
to me that there are a lot of
Christians out there–Christians
by name only, I assume–that
they can’t remember the last
time they opened their Bible.
So, look, I’m not
judging anybody.
I do have opinions about about
many things, like you
understand, but at the end of
the day, I wanna encourage
Tucker, Candace, open
your Bible, read.
You don’t need to have love in
your heart for Netanyahu.
Even though I work for
Netanyahu, I think he’s a great
leader, but learn your
biblical and Christian roots.
Understand what you are after.
Dave: Yeah, that is the absolute
perfect answer, because it all
goes back to the Bible.
And the Jews gave us our Bible,
and if all of my childhood
heroes, if I go back to Sunday
school, they were all King David
and Abraham and Noah’s Ark, and
they were all Israelites, and so
I am–go back to your Bible.
That’s the answer to all of it,
because it all begins with
Israel, and it all
ends with Israel.
I’m at Endtime Ministries here,
and they–and we talk about
Bible prophecy, and I study
almost 30% of the entire Bible,
Old and New Testament is Bible
prophecy, and the vast majority
that is focused right on Israel,
and that’s where it
all culminates.
And so I’m thankful to hear you
say that, and I know what you
believe, but for anybody that’s
listening, some of these false
narratives out there, just go
back to the Bible, because the
Bible gives the answers
to all of this.
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