Resurrection Power, Rapture Hope, and the Reality of Hell

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Dave: Welcome back, everybody,
and you know, let me just say
about the laying on of hands
that obviously there may be
somebody who doesn’t want you
to lay their hands upon them.
That’s fine, I would
never do that.
When I go to pray for somebody,
I say can I pray for you?
And is it okay if I lay
my hands upon–
And what I do, I touch their
forehead with three fingers, and
if it’s a female I put my other
hand behind my back so there’s
no questions about anything.
You guys understand
what I’m saying.
We’re ministers, and we
never want there to be
any awkwardness.
And so, I’ve watched my
father-in-law do this for my
whole life, and he would go up
and put his hand behind–his
right hand behind his back, and
he would put his hand on their
forehead and pray for them.
It’s very biblical.
You don’t have to
get weird about it.
If somebody don’t want you to
pray–to put your hand on ’em
then don’t.
It’s not going to be
awkward and weird.
It was all throughout–you guys,
go through and read the book of
Acts, study it, and you know,
if somebody doesn’t want you
to, don’t.
But I’ve been doing it and seen
it done my whole life, and so
it’s very, very, very effective,
but you don’t have to be weird
about this stuff.
I mean, come on, we’re all
adults here, and men can pray
for women, women, you know,
and women for men.
There’s nothing wrong
with any of that stuff.
We don’t gotta get hung
up on some of this.
You know, people try to turn
stuff into all kinds of stuff.
The fact is, the Bible talks
about it’s one of the doctrines,
laying on of hands.
That’s fine, I’m just telling
you about the doctrines today,
but we don’t have to get weird
about this stuff, right?
Okay, it’s supposed to be a
godly thing, so let’s keep
it godly.
Then there’s the doctrine of the
resurrection of the dead, and
there were people in Jesus’s day
who did not believe the dead
would raise again.
And of course we have infallible
and irrefutable proof that the
dead do raise, because
Jesus rose from the dead.
At one point he showed himself
to 500 people at one time.
He showed himself
to the disciples.
I mean, there was no question
at all, he rose from the dead.
Think of it like this, the
Pharisees and the high priests
actually paid large sums of
money to keep the soldiers quiet
concerning what happened to
the resurrection of Jesus.
They paid them to
lie, basically.
I mean, but none of it worked,
because the soldiers knew that
he had risen from the dead.
And so, we have infallible proof
that Jesus rose from the dead.
The Bible says at the time of
the Rapture that the dead in
Christ will rise first, then we
who are alive and remain, those
that have been born again, that
they’re prepared to meet the
Lord, that we will be caught
up to meet them in the air, so
shall we ever be with the Lord.
The dead in Christ will rise
first, it’s prophesied.
The prophecies
always come to pass.
Well, how can we believe
that that’s true?
Because Jesus Christ rose from
the dead, and there were other
people, the apostles and
different people that they
brought people back
from the dead, right?
You guys know the Bible.
And so, but again, we’re Bible
prophecy, Bible 101 here
today, right?
Now, in Romans chapter 8 verse
11 it says, “But if the same
Spirit of him that raised Jesus
from the dead dwells in you in
the form of the Holy Spirit, he
that raised up Christ from the
dead shall quicken your mortal
bodies by his Spirit that
dwelleth in you.”
So, this is the reason you
should never allow anyone to
tell you that the Holy
Ghost is optional.
It’s not optional, it’s
your resurrection power.
It’s just like saying that
gas is optional for your car.
Oh, you don’t have to
put gas in your car.
Okay, well, just try that, and
you will find that you’re going
to run out of gas
someday, right?
Because just like gas is
essential to a vehicle, that’s
the way the Holy Ghost
is to a Christian.
Now, that’s one of the million
reasons, but I’m just saying
it’s your resurrection power.
It is absolutely essential.
If the same Spirit that raised
Jesus from the dead dwells in
you, then your body will be
caught up, changed from mortal
to immortal, and you’ll be
caught up to meet him in the air
as well.
Now, I don’t want to wait until
the Rapture to find out that I
was supposed to have the Holy
Ghost and then not go up, right?
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I want to be full
of the Holy Ghost.
I don’t want to be on a quarter
of a tank, I don’t want to be–
I want to be on full, and when
that last trumpet sounds I want
this mortal to put on
immortality and be caught up to
meet the Lord in the air, okay?
Now we’re coming to
where I wanted to get.
I said all that to say this,
the last of the six principal
doctrines is the doctrine of
eternal judgment, and this is
where I wanna just, you know,
stop, or let’s say pause, and
address the podcaster’s claim
that the traditional view of
hell does not fit the broader
biblical narrative, and he
actually expressed openness to
the annihilationism, which is
the belief that the wicked
ultimately, they just perish
rather than suffer eternally.
And because it’s a big thing,
this is one of the principal
doctrines of the New
Testament church, everyone,
you understand?
And so, when somebody tries to
move off of that and people
start questioning and
saying, well, is that true?
Well, I thought we’d just have a
good old Bible study today and
figure it all out, because we’re
gonna go to some Scriptures
here, because I want you
to understand.
I’ve had other people email me
and call me and different things
over the years and question a
physical hell or whether it was
eternal, so I thought I’d
just go through some of the
Scriptures today to make sure
there were no gray areas.
This is a black-and-white issue.
This is a fundamental doctrine.
Now, I fully understand eternal
judgment, it’s not a very
popular doctrine today.
It’s not talked about in
very many churches anymore.
Hell, eternal judgment.
I mean, some churches will avoid
that like the plague, but here’s
the thing, it is a
biblical doctrine.
It is one of the foundational
principle doctrines of the New
Testament church.
This doctrine teaches every
human being is gonna spend
eternity somewhere.
You’re gonna be judged and then
you’re gonna spend eternity
somewhere, either in the glories
of heaven with Jesus Christ or
in the lake of fire with Satan.
Now, we don’t–Endtime
Ministries, we don’t want one
person to go to the lake of
fire, that’s why we’re doing all
this stuff.
The bad thing is, is that the
Bible says there will be many
people that go there, and we
each have to work out our own
salvation with fear
and trembling.
The stakes are as high in this
salvation business as anything
you will ever experience.
Listen, this is more critical
than whether your business goes
bankrupt or not.
Now, I don’t want that
to happen, but this is
more important.
This is more critical than
anything you will ever deal with
in your entire life, because
the stakes are eternal, they’re
forever, and you can never–
there’s no–you can’t
make a mistake on this.
And for somebody to say, well,
you know, the judgments are
not–they’re not really forever.
Oh, hence my program.
The Bible says this
life, it’s but a vapor.
It’s here then it’s gone.
There’s an eternal judgment.
We don’t have to fear that, but
we should always have a healthy
reverence for it.
We should never, you know,
play loose with our salvation.
If I hit something in my
spiritual life and I say, well,
I’m not sure what I think about
this, do you know what I’m
gonna do?
I’m gonna take the safe route.
Some people, they just seem
to love to live on the edge.
I mean, when it comes to your
salvation, don’t live on
the edge.
I would rather go a little too
far than not go far enough in my
walk with the Lord.
Lord, tell me what to do.
Tell me to go a mile,
I’m going 10 miles.
It’s very important that we have
these foundational truths and
believe them without wavering.
You can’t waver on
this stuff, guys.
So, there is an
eternal judgment.
Let’s go to the Bible.
Is there any scriptural evidence
for an eternal judgment in hell?
There’s my next question.
I can’t answer that, but I do
know a book that can, and that
book was the only book ever
written by God Almighty, and
it’s called the Bible.
So, let’s go first to
Matthew chapter 25 verse 46.
It says, “And these will go away
into eternal punishment, but the
righteous into eternal life.”
This verse is one of the
clearest affirmations of two
eternal destinies following
the final judgment.
The same Greek word,
“aionios,” it means eternal.
It describes both punishment and
life, and it’s establishing an
intentional parallel here.
If eternal life is an unending
conscious existence with God,
then eternal punishment must
likewise be unending conscious
existence separated from God.
Now, this podcaster was
saying that he didn’t believe
necessarily that there was going
to be an unending conscious
existence in a hell.
Now, this scripture right here
says, “And they shall go away
into eternal punishment, but the
righteous into eternal life.”
The idea that punishment
suddenly begins temporary or
annihilative while life
remains everlasting is a
false narrative.
Jesus himself is the speaker
here and he’s underscoring the
seriousness of eternal judgment.
I mean, this passage reinforces
the urgency of certainly
repentance, obedience to the
gospel, and holy living.
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Dave: Number two, I wanted
to cover Matthew 24:41.
The Bible says, “Depart from me,
you cursed into the eternal fire
prepared for the devil
and his angels.”
So, this verse, it teaches that
hell was originally prepared for
fallen angels, not humanity, but
humans who reject God ultimately
share the same destiny,
and this strongly refutes
annihilationism, because angels
are spiritual beings who cannot
cease to exist.
In other words, annihilationism,
once you die, you’re just
done, okay?
That’s not what
the Bible teaches.
The fire is explicitly described
in this verse as eternal, not
merely the effects of the fire,
and the humans who reject
salvation are judged with the
same finality as Satan and his
angels, demonstrating that
hell is a real, ongoing state
of punishment.
It’s not some kind of a
symbolic destruction or
temporary discipline.
You say, “Dave, man,
this is very weighty.”
This is why a lot of pastors
don’t talk about it anymore,
folks, you know, and there’s
nothing wrong with great,
uplifting, you know,
positive preaching.
We all need that, but this
is one of the six principal
doctrines of the church,
eternal judgment,
so we gotta talk about it.
I’m not saying you need a diet
of it every Sunday when you go
to church, certainly not, but
occasionally we probably ought
to come down this path and then
move right back and move along,
because people need to know.
Now, let me go to number
three here because my time’s
coming short.
Mark chapter 9 verse 43 through
48, and of course it’s referring
back to Isaiah 66:24.
It says, “The unquenchable fire
where their worm does not die
and the fire is not quenched.”
So, this is a little warning,
the warnings of Jesus.
Unquenchable means the
fire cannot be put out.
Not merely that it burns until
it consumes, but likewise their
worm does not die.
It indicates continuous
corruption and suffering,
not extinction.
I mean, Jesus repeats this
warning three times for
emphasis, and it shows the
gravity of this horrific place
called hell.
Jesus Christ repeated language.
It dismantles the idea of
temporary punishment, and it
highlights the necessity of
self-denial, living a holy life,
and obedience to avoid
eternal damnation and eternal
loss, okay?
Now, again, this is Bible
prophecy, Bible study 101.
The fourth Scripture I wanna go
to, 2 Thessalonians chapter 1
verse 9, “That they will suffer
the punishment of eternal
destruction away from the
presence of the Lord.”
Eternal destruction, that
does not mean annihilation.
In other words, you don’t
die and then it’s over,
eternal destruction.
Biblically, destruction often
refers to ruin, loss, or
separation, not
cessation of your being.
And in here, the punishment is
eternal because the state of
separation from God is eternal.
To me, that would be
the worst part of hell.
You can never feel
God’s presence.
God is the source of
life, joy, peace.
To be forever away from the
presence of the Lord, I mean,
that would be to exist in
perpetual ruin and judgment, and
this aligns with scriptural
teachings on the irreversible
consequences of rejecting Jesus
Christ and his gospel, which is
free for everyone, or the
doctrine of eternal judgment.
Now, the next one, Revelation
chapter 14 verse 10 to 11, looks
like I’m gonna get
through everything.
Revelation 14:10-11, this
is talking about people who
receive the mark of the beast.
It says, “The smoke of their
torment goes up forever and
ever, and they have no
rest day or night.”
What do you think
forever and ever means?
I mean, this passage is one of
the most explicit descriptions
of a conscious eternal
torment in Scripture.
So, torment implies awareness,
not your conscience is
gone, awareness.
No rest day or night indicates
uninterrupted suffering.
Forever and ever,
of course, that removes
any possibility of some kind
of an end point right there.
The torment occurs in the
presence of the Lamb.
What’s that saying?
Well, that kind of emphasizes
that this judgment is righteous,
it’s deliberate, and it’s final.
This passage strongly refutes
symbolic-only interpretations
of hell.
Hell is very real, and I don’t
want to see anybody go there.
I don’t want to see
anybody go there.
The sixth one I want to go to,
Revelation 19:20, chapter 20
verse 10, and then chapter
20 verse 14 and 15.
Verses 19–Revelation 19:20,
“And the beast was taken, and
with him the false prophet that
wrought miracles before him,
with which he deceived them that
had received the mark of the
beast and them that worshiped
its image,” these both, the
Antichrist and the false
prophet, “Are cast alive into a
lake of fire burning
with brimstone.”
This happens at the Second
Coming of Jesus Christ, okay?
This is just ahead of us now.
If you go to
Revelation 20 verse 10,
this is the New
Living Translation.
Listen to this closely.
This is after the 1,000-year
Millennial Reign.
Satan’s loosed, he’s come down
against Jerusalem to battle, the
Lord just consumes them
with a fire from heaven.
Then in Revelation 20 verse 10
in the New Living Translation it
says, “Then the devil, who had
deceived these individuals,
after he’s released from the
bottomless pit, was thrown into
the fiery lake of burning
sulfur,” listen, “Joining the
beast and the false prophet.
There they, the Antichrist,
false prophet, and Satan,
will be tormented day and
night, forever and ever.
Anyone not found–”
and then in verse 14,
“Anyone not found written
in the Lamb’s Book of Life will
be cast in the lake of fire.”
Satan is cast into the lake
of fire at the end of the
1,000-year millennial reign,
and it says that he joins
the Antichrist and the false
prophet that were cast there
1,000 years earlier.
You understand what I’m saying?
It’s not die and you’re done,
this is an eternal judgment.
The Bible says they will suffer
eternal judgment, and of course
it teaches that the lake
of fire, it’s the final
eternal judgment.
Satan, the beast, and the false
prophet, they’re tormented
forever, and humans whose names
are not in the Lamb’s Book of
Life, they join the same fate.
If the devil’s punishment is
eternal and conscious, and
humans are cast into the same
lake, well, consistency demands
the same duration and
nature of punishment.
Death and Hades being thrown
into the lake confirms that this
is the end of all
opportunity for repentance.
Folks, everybody on earth has
a chance right now to make it
right, please do,
I’m imploring you.
Now you got a chance.
Just do it.
Get in a good Bible study.
Understand the Word of God.
Know how to be born again.
Make sure you know what to do.
If you don’t know how
to be born again, go to
endtime.com/reborn,
endtime.com.
E-N-D-T-I-M-E.com,
forward slash, reborn, okay?
The seventh one I wanted to go
to, Jude chapter 7, it says,
“Sodom and Gomorrah undergoing
a punishment of eternal fire.”
So, while the physical cities
were destroyed historically,
thousands of years ago, Jude is
teaching us that they now serve
as an ongoing example of eternal
judgment, and it’s, you know,
this is proof that God’s
judgment has lasting
consequences beyond
a physical death.
The eternal fire is not still
burning in that valley down
there, in the Jordan
Valley, but its judicial
reality continues.
It’s pointing to the eternal
nature of divine judgment of
unrepentant sin.
Thank God we all have an
opportunity to miss all this.
Daniel chapter 12 verse 2,
it says, “Some are raised to
everlasting life and some to
shame and everlasting contempt.”
So, of course it’s an Old
Testament passage that mirrors
Matthew 25:46 and establishes
that both destinies are
everlasting, and it emphasizes
the bodily resurrection of both
the righteous and the wicked.
Everlasting contempt
requires consciousness.
I mean, one cannot experience
shame or contempt if you’re
nonexistence, if you just die
and that’s it, and this confirms
that the wicked are resurrected
to face eternal judgment,
not annihilation.
And so, in summary here, what do
these passages altogether teach?
Number one, hell is real, it’s
literal, and it is eternal.
Punishment is conscious
and unending.
The same eternity that blesses
the righteous condemns the
wicked, and God’s justice is
final, holy, and righteous.
Salvation through repentance,
baptism, and receiving the gift
of the Holy Ghost, it’s
essential to escape this
eternal judgment.
And so, that’s why we put an
emphasis on the urgency of
holiness, evangelism, obedience
to the gospel, because eternal
destinies are–
they’re irrevocable.
I mean, you know, once the
judgment occurs, and these
verses emphasize eternity or
forever, unquenchable fire, no
rest day or night.
It’s eternal, folks, and
conscious suffering, torment,
fire, a worm, but note
that interpretations vary.
Some annihilationists or
conditional immortalists, they
argue terms like
“destruction” or “perish.”
John 3:16, Matthew 10:28, and
they mean that the wicked, they
would say the wicked ultimately
cease to exist after their
judgment, with eternal
punishment referring to
permanent results rather
than an ongoing process.
However, the traditional view,
that which most–I’m gonna say
most people probably hold to,
from these passages that I just
went through, they clearly teach
everlasting, conscious judgment.
And so, I wanted to go through
this today because there’s so
much going on on the internet
and different things that might
lead people astray.
Let’s just be nice and say that.
And the Bible, the Bible says
God is not the author of
confusion, that’s why the
Bible never contradicts it.
So, if the Bible was
contradictory all the way
through, if there was one
message taught in Matthew and
then the Apostle Paul came
teaching something totally
different than that, what
could you believe in?
The book would be worth nothing
to any of us if it constantly
contradicted itself, but
Almighty God is the author of
the Bible.
He used different individuals to
write down what he told them.
That’s the way the
Bible is structured.
And so, and God has in the Bible
everything that he wants in
the Bible.
You don’t have to think, well,
I’m missing something if I don’t
have the Bible.
You’re not missing anything
if you don’t have the Bible.
Everything you need to live your
life as a Christian and to go to
heaven and to be with the
Lord forever is in the Bible.
You’re not missing something
because there’s not a book
in there.
You’re not missing something
because somebody accidentally
left it out.
You don’t have to
wonder about that.
You can have a–the Bible says
God had not given us a spirit of
fear, but of love, power,
and of a sound mind.
I have a sound mind that
everything I need to know to get
to heaven is in the Bible.
Those 66 books, 31,000-plus
verses, everything’s in
the Bible.
The Bible does not contradict
itself, and that way I know that
I know that I know, but my job
is to align my life up to and to
obey what the Bible says.
You say, “But Dave, man, the
Bible, that’s just a big old
rulebook, a bunch of
do-s and don’ts.”
Listen to me, you
got it all wrong.
The Bible’s not just a bunch of
do-s and don’ts, the Bible has
principles and doctrines and
different things that are used
to help protect you from things
that will send you to hell.
That’s the Bible.
The Bible gives us prophecies
and things to help build our
faith in the Word of God and
give us timelines and shows us
how to prepare for the future,
and the Bible over and over and
over is the redemptive plan of
God for the human race, showing
us and giving us a promise,
you can come live with me.
Obey these certain things,
you can go live with me
for eternity.
You gotta obey those things,
because they will change you
from your old man, your sinful
nature, into a new creature in
Jesus Christ, and you can become
part of the bride of Christ.
It’s not a bunch of
rulebook do-s and don’ts.
If you’re looking at it like
that, you’ve got your whole–
the thinking’s off.
The Word of God is the most
awesome book ever written.
There’s nothing that even
remotely compares to it.
It’s a living book, because
it’s the Word of God.
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