August 1, 2010
What Do You Mean, Born Again?

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  1. Hi Team, before I comment further on the subject of having to speak in tongues to be Born Again, I would like to take the opportunity to thank you all for the professional way you operate/conduct this ministry for the glory of God and let you Know that it has been a real blessing to me.

  2. I have been taught to seek continually, the infilling of the Holy Spirit and that the Holy Spirit alone decides which gifts a person shall receive, so I am not sure what you mean when you say that these gifts develop over time. I am aware of the purpose of the gifts and I would add that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are not only for edification but also for testimony and I agree that we are taught to desire these gifts and further, not to quench the gifts of the Holy Spirit and you confused me with your comments about tongues coming naturally, it may be natural for the Holy Spirit to speak in tongues or groanings or visions, but to us it has to be a gift, not earned or learnt. My initial question still stands however, does Brother Baxter teach that unless one speaks in tongues (however you define it), one is not born again. Thank you for your response Anthony and I look forward to hearing from you again. Your brother in Christ Jesus, Steve.

  3. I have had the chance to study Brother Baxter’s material at some length and so far agree with all his teachings with the exception of one and that is a big call. My objection comes from his foundational statement that to Be Born Again you must be filled with the Holy Spirit as evidenced by speaking in tongues, am I right in concluding that BB’s saying, that unless you speak in tongues, you are not saved and if this is indeed the case, what is his explanation of the Bible verses 1 Corinthians 12 : 27-30. Looking forward to your comments. Your brother in Christ Jesus, Steve.

    • It is important to understand that speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance at the initial in filling of the Spirit and the gift of tongues are not the same thing. The gift of tongues is to be coupled with the gift of prophecy or interpretation. The gifts are used for the edifying of the church as a whole. These gifts are also things that develop over time. Paul taught that we could desire spiritual gifts. People do not have to desire something that comes naturally. Acts 2:4 shows us that tongues come naturally with the Spirit because the Spirit gives the utterance. This is illustrated in Acts 2, 8, 10, and 19.

      • The whole speaking in tongues in order to go to heaven has perplexed me for years. I have been repented (and do daily) I have been baptized in Jesus name and I have spoken in tongues. That being said. I have seen people pray and pray and pray and cry because the couldn’t speak in tongues but wanted to. People telling them “you’re not saved until you speak in tongues”. That is extremely dangerous in my opinion. As a result they finally gave up. I don’t concern myself with having to “speaking in tongues”. if it happens, it happens. My salvation is in my faith in Jesus Christ. Our salvation is free to all that want it. it is a gift from God through faith in Jesus Christ. We don’t have to beg, it’s free. How do I know I am save..? simple, I have placed my faith in Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.
        2:9 Not of works, least any man should boast.
        It is about true faith which is made evident in the fruit we bare;
        Galatians 5:22-23
        22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
        23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
        I understand the speaking in tongues is a spiritual gift and I accept that. But speak in tongues or you’re not going to heaven. That doesn’t settle with me.

        • Otis,
          Though I’d love to give a long response, I just can’t now.
          Suffice to say, I think your post is true brother. On both sides of the fence you have strong blood bought believers who disagree on this topic of ‘tongues’.
          I understand the staffer, Anthony’s, response.
          The bottom line is … what you said! It’s all about Jesus. It’s about our faith IN what He accomplished on that cross for OUR sins. It’s what HE does, not us.
          When you repent and place all your faith and trust in Him … you are saved. And the evidence of that is you confirming that you call Jesus Christ the Son of God, Lord … the one who came down from heaven, in the flesh. 1 John 3 talks about many antichrists … being those who don’t believe or say that Jesus is essentially God.

          When there’s other standards placed on our salvation and evidences … such as tongues for showing you’ve been saved … that’s not biblical.

          Yes, it was an evidence for the Jewish believers to say … hey wait … the Gentiles have received God Spirit just like us! Whoa, I guess salvation has spread to them too.

          Anyway, God bless you and you dig into His Word and place all your trust in Him,
          by faith.

          Mark

        • I understand where you are coming from and I believe to some extent this has been portrayed in a confusing fashion. The important thing is to not seek tongues. We are not supposed to worry about that. All we should do is seek a relationship with Jesus Christ. If we truly seek for that and seek for His Spirit, then we will receive it. When we receive it, the Spirit is going to make us speak in tongues. We do not have to try to speak in tongues, that is God’s job.

  4. “Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.”

    “Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
    Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
    Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
    Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
    Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;…”

    True fellowship (which is love) day by day is what the Creator wants from us. For what other reason were we created ?
    If we love Him in truth, we surely Love and Believe on the Son and the Holy Spirit goes with and guides us day by day.

    “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
    Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
    And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you. ”

    “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”

  5. Dave: Your comment that Jesus didn’t want anyone to know because they would kill Him, doesn’t apply here. Jesus was already crucified and on His way back to the Father when He Said those words. Mt. 28:19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, Baptizing them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe ALL things that I have commanded you and lo, I Am with you always even to the end of the age.” Like I said, Jesus could have said Baptize in MY Name, It would have been shorter and easier, but He didn’t. By saying those words at Baptism, it would reveal to all who He is. Blessings…

    • Once again, when one does not take into consideration the history of the church and the early writings of the Apostles and the “Sacred Traditions” that were passed down from the Apostles, misunderstandings pop up. Bible “alone” and faith “alone” are NOT Biblical. 1 Tim 3:15 tell us that it is the “church that is the pillar and foundation of Truth” NOT the Bible. The RCC has NOT dismissed “immersion” as a form of Baptism but it is NOT the only form. The one being Baptized has a choice. Since Baptism in the RCC is also given to babies, it is hardly likely that a new baby will be immersed. But to put blinders on, dismiss other forms of Baptism, definitely performed by the Apostles in the early Church, is a false belief. There are Sacred Traditions that John tells us about in Jn. 21:25 that have been handed down through the Apostles and their successors for centuries in the life of the Church that are very, very valid. I am NOT talking about “man-made” traditions that Paul warns us against. I’m talking about the “Sacred Traditions” on which Paul tells us to “hold fast” Paul compares Baptism to circumcision and we all know that Jesus was “circumcised” as a baby! I think what is missing here, is the understanding of Baptism. Baptism is not only an outward physical sign, it is also an indelible “spiritual.” mark of belonging to Christ. When we are Baptized, no matter how it is done, if we have the sincere desire to be Baptized and belong to Christ, we are Baptized, whether we are a baby are 90 yrs. old. Peace.

    • Hi Shirley,

      Anthony has already pointed out the meaning of the word baptize, but I wanted to touch on it for just a moment.
      They could have used other words for sprinkling or pouring, yet they used a word that did not allow for such an action. You have to ask yourself why? Baptizo means “to make whelmed” that is to say, “fully wet.” Hebrews 9 & 11 shows that they had 2 other words they could have used if sprinkling or pouring was what they meant. Rhantizo used for sprinkling in Hebrews 9:13 means “to sprinkle.”
      Proschusis used for sprinkling in Hebrews 11:28 means “to pour.”
      Either word could have been used when describing what they did if it did not matter, but they went with Baptizo, which has a very specific meaning as we have already stated, which is “to make whelmed (that is fully wet).”

      Here’s the example of Philip and the eunuch. Acts 8:38 says “…they went down both into the water…” And, “he baptized him.” A more literal translation would read, “they both descended into the water” because the exact translation of went down is “to descend.” Taking our earlier understanding of Baptizo and this new information about descending into the water it makes sense. You have to get fully into the water in order to be immersed in it, right? You can not be baptized (made fully wet) standing on dry land, you could be sprinkled or poured on. But Philip did not sprinkle (rhantizo) or pour (proschusis) on the eunuch, he baptized (baptizo) him.

      Please remember that baptism is symbolic of our burial with Him. (Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.) Immersion is the only method that retains the biblical symbolism of baptism as a burial. (It is also important to note that baptism is more than symbolic and more than a declaration of joining the church. The eunuch was in the desert and had no crowd to witness, and the Philippian jailer was baptized at midnight as soon as he heard the gospel message.)

      Below are 5 points of the Biblical significance of water baptism w/ Scripture references.
      1. God remits sin at water baptism: Acts 2:38 & 22:16

      2. Baptism is part of our new birth experience: John 3:5 & Titus 3:5

      3. Baptism as identification with the burial of Jesus: Romans 6:4 & Colossians 2:12

      4. Water baptism is part of the one baptism of
      water and Spirit that places us into Christ: Romans 6:3-4, Galatians 3:27, and Ephesians 4:5

      5. Baptism is part of our spiritual circumcision: Colossians 2:11-13

      Here is a simple test that just came to mind.
      According to the Bible have I been baptizo, rhantizo, or proschusis?
      I believe you would say rhantizo. Those mentioned in the Bible received a baptizo, shouldn’t our experience be the same?

    • Shirley Ludwig: Not eveything that Jesus taught or did is in the Bible as John explains in Jn. 21:25 “And there are also many other things that Jesus taught and did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.” The Bible “alone” as many believe and teach, is not Biblical. And if you were to read early writings of the Apostles, that did not get into the Bible, they very much did sprinkle/pour water on the heads of the Baptizee and not immerse people all the time. Sometimes it was not possible. Not everyone was near a river. Not everyone had a Baptizmal pool in their home. People that believe in Bible alone miss all the teachings that John was talking about. When you do not take in account early written accounts and teachings in Church history by the Apostles and their successors, you do not get the entire picture. It’s like reading a book with chapters missing. If you read material by the early Church Fathers and what the martyrs wrote before their deaths, you will get a clearer picture of Church history. If you believe in the Bible “alone” you would have to concede that just because they went down into the water, does not necessarily mean that one was immersed. Philip could just as easily picked up water into his hands and pour it over the eunuch. No where in the Bible does it say, you must be immersed. Just because Baptism means “immerse” doesn’t validate it. It’s just that there is no other word to discribe Baptism. Peace.

    • Every baptism was done by immersion. The original word for “baptize” literally means to immerse. There is not one example of sprinkling. At the end of Acts 8 in verse 38 we find that Philip baptizes the Ethiopian eunuch. The Bible says that they both went down into the water. So Biblical baptism was done by immersion in the name of Jesus; there is no other way taught in the scriptures.

  6. Yes I agree that “being born again” is exactly as Peter told those on the day of Pentecost…Repent (death, meaning on the altar we let our old ways die and we walk in a different direction) Baptised (burial, in the Name of Jesus, the only way we take can be in the family of God) Recieve the Holy Ghost (when we are filled we will speak in another tongue as God gives the utterance)

    This is the only way according to the Word that we can be “Born Again” Just like the 120 in the upper room, the 3,000 that were added to the church, the Samaritans in Acts chapter 8, Corneilias and his household in Acts chapter 10 and the 12 in Acts chapter 19

    I might add that Jesus told his Deciples in Luke 24 verse 47 this exact same thing. I myself recieved this experience 35 years ago and it is as real today as it was 35 years ago. Also the Name of the Father is Jesus, the Name of the Son is Jesus and the Name of the Holy Ghost is Jesus. That is why Matthew recorded Jesus words baptise in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, He knew the only Name…JESUS!

    • Then why didn’t Jesus say Baptize in MY NAME instead of Baptize in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit? It would have been easier to say the first than than the latter. By Baptizing in the latter, it reveals to everyone who Jesus is. If Baptized in Jesus’ name only, people would think as they did before when they said “I was Baptized by John or I was Baptized by Paul., I was Baptized by whoever, etc. There would have been no difference. They wouldn’t have made the connection. Since Jesus HIMSELF, said “Baptize in the Name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”, that’s good enough for me. I would rather rely on Jesus’ words than anyone elses. Peace.

      • Joanne,

        This is a tricky subject and I can tell that you had a very real experience during your baptism. But if their was a legitimate reason why Jesus did not say “baptize in my name” would you then reconsider?

        If you look closley at the life of Jesus he is very careful not to reveal his true identity as the messiah. That’s why he said ” I am the way the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the father, but by me” he could have said, I am the Christ and messiah which was prophesied of to you by Elijah. That would haven been much more clear to the people. But he could not reveal who he was, this is recorded by Jesus himself when he asked the disciples “who do men say that I am” and peter famously answered “you are the Christ”. Jesus then charges the deciples to tell no man that he is the messiah and Christ. Why? Because Jesus knew that he had to go to Calvary. At that time and the time when he said ” baptize in the name of the father, son, and Holy Ghost.” He purposely concealing his true identity as the messiah. If he had not, he would have been stoned by the Pharisees that traveled with him for blasphemy, and he could not let that happen because the plan of salvation had to happen at Calvary. The people eventually came to realize that he was the messiah as he entered Jerusalem,”hosanah in the highest”, but that had to play out exactly as it did in order to fulfil the perfect plan of salvation. Had he said baptize in my name, he would have killed at that time instead of the perfect time.

        I want you to know that you are not alone in how you feel. I was originally baptized incorrectly, but I had a very strong emotional attachment to it. And it took someone explaining it this way to me in order for me to let the walls down and be baptized again in Jesus name. Since then God has started an amazing work in me, and I would not change that decision for anything. I want you to consider one more passage, because their is a circumstance in scripture just like mine and your circumstance and it tells us exactly what to do. It’s Acts 19:1-6

        And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

        God Bless!

        • Hi Dave, good to hear from you. I want to ask you a question. When I get your answer, I will answer your above post. Remember, the Bible teaches that “our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit.” Question: After reading all my comments, do you really think that I do not have the Holy Spirit within me? Do you really think that I do not live for Christ? Okay, it was two questions. Indulge me. Blessings.

  7. The Lord said to the thief on the cross today you will be with me in paradise. Those being held in paradise we’re looking forward to his death, burial and resurrection. When he went into the heart of the earth he revealed himself to those in paradise and the thief being there with him they all had the opportunity to accept or reject him.

    • M. Taunton: Are you sure you don’t mean “those in PRISON.” 1 Pet. 3:18-19 says “For Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the sake of the unrighteous, that He might lead you to God. Put to death in the flesh, He was brought to life in the spirit. In it, He also went to preach to the spirits in PRISON.” The THIEF went directly to paradise with Jesus, he was not in “prison.” Peace.

  8. “IF” we all agree that “Original Sin” is on every human being’s soul at the time of birth, as it teaches in the Bible, then a baby has the “Original Sin” of Adam on his/her soul when he/she is born. And, since Baptism washes away all sin, why would you not want to Baptize the baby? Why would you not want your baby joined with Christ, as “we put on Christ” when we are Baptized. Why would Paul compare Baptism to circumcision? Why would Joseph and Mary have Jesus circumcised (Baptized) in His first 40 days of life? Why in Matt. 19:13-15, when the Apostles rebuked the children, would Jesus say “Let the little children come to Me, and DO NOT forbid them; for the kingdom of Heaven BELONGS to such as these?” And He placed His hands on them. If the “kingdom of Heaven BELONGS to such as these” don’t you think that they should be given the “kingdom of Heaven” in Baptism. After all, it BELONGS to them. And where in the Bible does it say that babies CAN’T be Baptized, since Jesus was Baptized/circumcised as a baby? Peace.

  9. Hallelujah! It’s so rare in these times to find someone who understands and preaches the truth as to how to be saved. So many people, even those who have been born again of “water and the spirit” as Jesus said must happen, do not understand that being born again must be of WATER AND THE SPIRIT (i.e. as you have so rightly expressed it – repenting, being baptised by full immersion in water for the remission of your sins and receiving the Holy Spirit with the sign of speaking in tongues). It goes on in John 3 to say that you will hear the sound of the spirit, which can only be the sound of speaking in tongues. Praise God that you, like the group with which I fellowship are preaching the same gospel of salvation that the apostles preached for this is the only way to salvation. Any other way is a counterfeit and will not achieve the desired result!

  10. Based on the above article none before Jesus came could have been born again, and yet Jesus asked Nicodemus how he could not already know these things. How can you rationally juxtapose those two statements?

    • You cant enter into the womb again…You have to be born of the spirit…When you receive the Holy Ghost the evidence will be by speaking in tongues…(Acts 2:38)This is only given by God in Heaven..When your heart is right with the Lord you will receive it…You must have this because he told Nicodemus that you cant enter into heaven without the Holy Ghost…Its very important.!!!…I guess the question would be where do you want to spend eternity..Dont rely on man he cant save you only God can…I ask God for everything he has to give…Their are many more gifts he gives..You have to seek him first..God Bless..

  11. If I’m understanding this “Urgent Question” and answer, Mr. Baxter has most of it correct right up to, but not including, the true conclusion. This answer stops short of what being BORN AGAIN actually is — not an official pronouncement, not an emotional experience, not a new frame of mind, but rather the literal becoming a new spirit creature, just as is Almighty God … as Jesus tells Nicodemus in John 3 (Holy Bible):

    5 — Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
    6 — “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
    7 — “Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
    8 — “The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

    Do you get it? The apostle Paul got it and also preached about being BORN AGAIN in 1Corinthians 15 (Holy Bible):

    44 — “It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”

    And in case you still didn’t get it, Paul explains BORN AGAIN, again, and even WHEN it happens:

    50 — “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
    51 — “Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed
    52 — “in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
    53 — “For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.”

    There it is … you aren’t BORN AGAIN until you are literally born anew AS a spirit being (just AS is God) and it happens AT the return of Jesus Christ.

    • that is correct and right on, Jonah.. can’t argue that witch comes right out of the Word of God….. out of love and respect to this belief, I urge you to ask the Lord to show you the REAL truth b/c your being deceived… Jonah is right b/c it is writen

      • let me correct myself and say I don’t fully agree with Jonah… we can all fight about what or who is right, or who is wrong BUT you can’t argue the words of my testimony….. read ALL of John 5 (witch is just one of many places) & Mark 1, whole chapter and it states very clearly .. God Bless you all!

        • although, there are many places that bare record of “trinity”.. here’s one of many………….1 John 5:7

          King James Version (KJV)

          7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

          John 1:1-14

          New King James Version (NKJV)
          The Eternal Word

          1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.
          John’s Witness: The True Light

          6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.[b]

          10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own,[c] and His own[d] did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
          The Word Becomes Flesh

          14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

          your argument isn’t with me but rather with God… His Word is very clear

  12. Do you have a book on the subject..BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN?
    that explains the term, and how it has been, an is beinting totally
    misconstrued?

  13. No one other than Christ, the first fruits, has been born again-possibly Elijah, Enoch, and the thief from the cross. Born again is when we are transformed at the rapture, on the last day, day of the Lord. As you’ve said, 90% don’t understand born again. It is the “changing in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye” from corruptible to incorruptible, mortal to immortal. you are not born again just by being saved.

    You are pressing a dangerous supposition with the “must be baptized” doctrine. that is a work; we are saved by grace through faith.

    I would like Irvin to discuss on the show sometime his explanation of the pentecostal oneness doctrine which is clearly unscriptural and possibly even blasphemous regarding the trinity.

    Infants cannot be baptised; that would be a blessing or christening; Baptism is a choice and an outward expression of your faith to your community-babies and small children cannot comprehend that.

    • Hello Bruce,
      There is no place in the King James version, where it is taught about a trinity; nor is the word trinity in the same Bible.
      This teaching of the trinity is a mans belief, that could have been/ can be corrected with a more complete study. Peace

      • Sharon: The words “rapture” and “incarnation” aren’t in the Bible either. So, according to your deductions, rapture and incarnation aren’t true either. Right? Peace.

    • Hi Bruce.

      Can you show me the Trinity doctrine starting in the Old Testament and follow through to the New. Explain to me why Jews have never understood it. Also, please explain why God did not reveal Himself as a trinity to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc, etc.
      I am having trouble with understanding why God would explicitly say He was One(Deut6:4), there was no God beside Him(Isaiah 44:6, 8; 45:5, 21; Hos13:4), He knew no other God(Isaiah 44:8), He was alone(countless verses say this), and He did things by Himself(Isaiah 44:24) if there were in fact two other persons with Him. This terminology is the strongest possible used to indicate a Single person.
      Even trinitarian scholars have admitted that the OT does not show or lead to a trinity doctrine. If the OT is the schoolmaster that leads us to the truth of the NT, why omit the most basic tenet of the faith? How can you “know” God, if you have no understanding of Him? The individuals we see mentioned in the OT had no concept of a trinity doctrine, and Judaism is strictly monotheistic. What was Jesus, what were His disciples? All were adherents to Judaism, or Jews if you prefer.

      Also, can you please provide Scriptural proof that no one has been born again, and that we can not be born again until the rapture happens?
      Finally, please explain why baptism is not important and/or necessary using Scripture.

      Thank you.

      • Steve, Genesis 1:26 says, Then God said, “Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. ~ You have to ask yourself, who is us if not the Father, son, and the holy spirit.

        • Dan,
          Trinitarian scholars admit that the use of “us” in Genesis 1:26 is in no way evidence of a trinity. I will give you several explanations, that even Trinitarian scholars can agree with.
          Majestic or Literary Plural – in formal speaking and writing the speaker or writer often refers to himself in the plural, especially if the speaker is royal.
          Biblical examples: Daniel told King Nebuchadnezzar, “We will tell the interpretation thereof before the king,..” Yet, Daniel alone gave the interpretation.
          King Artaxerxes referred to himself in the singular and the plural: Ezra 4:18 “The letter which ye sent unto us hath been plainly read before me” He sent the letter to the King.
          Ezra 7:13 “I make a decree,..” Then, Ezra 7:24 “Also we certify you,..” Again, the king is the one issuing the decree and doing the talking, yet he uses singular and plural to define himself.

          God counseling His own will – Ephesians 1:11 “In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:” This is much like us making plans while we are alone and saying, “Hmm, let’s see…” Let’s see = let us see.

          Traditional Jewish understanding – God talked
          to the angels at creation. This is not implying that the angels actually took part in creation but that God informed them of His plans and solicited their comments out of courtesy and respect. We actually have a Biblical record of God speaking to the angels and requesting their opinions, read 1 Kings 22:19-22, and we know that the angels were present at creation, read Job 38:4-7.

          Regardless of your interpretation of Genesis 1:26, it absolutely MUST agree with the rest of Scripture. If you understand Gen 1:26′s “us” to mean a plurality, you have to reconcile a plural “us” to a singular “his” in Gen 1:27 & 2:7. Also, you must take into account the creature that God created in His own image. Humanity. It doesn’t matter how you identify the various components that make us up, we only have one personality and one will. We are one person in every way.

          Any interpretation of “us” that implies the existence of more than one person of God runs into many Scriptural problems. Isaiah 44:24 “Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” I, alone, by myself does not allow for plurality in any way. If you wanted to emphasize the singular, that is the language you would use. Malachi 2:10 says we have One Creator, “Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?”

          I know of other Oneness explanations offered as to what “us” means, and each one coexists peacefully with Scripture. On the other hand, the doctrine of the Trinity violates Scripture repeatedly. In order to give a proper explanation of the Trinity, one must rely on outside sources, philosophy, and tradition of men.

          “The doctrine of the Trinity itself, however,
          is not a Biblical doctrine and this indeed
          not by accident but of necessity. It is the
          product of theological reflection upon the
          problem. . . . The ecclesiastical doctrine of
          the Trinity is not only the product of genuine
          Biblical thought, it is also the product of
          philosophical speculation, which is remote
          from the thought of the Bible.” Emil Brunner, a trinitarian Protestant theologian.

          “When one does speak of an unqualified
          Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period
          of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant
          of the 4th century. . . . From what has
          been seen thus far, the impression could
          arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the
          last analysis a late 4th century invention. In
          a sense, this is true but it implies an extremely
          strict interpretation of the key words
          Trinitarian and dogma. . . . The formulation
          “one God in three Persons” was not solidly
          established, certainly not fully assimilated
          into Christian life and its profession of faith,
          prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is
          precisely this formulation that has first claim
          to the title the Trinitarian dogma.” The New Catholic Encyclopedia

          Understanding that God is indivisibly One is the only way to understand the rest of Scripture without having to add our own interpretations, philosophies, and traditions. Keep in mind that Jesus gave several statements that help us to understand the absolute Oneness of God.
          John 4:24 “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” God is a Spirit
          John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” The Father is the only true God.
          Mark 12:29 “And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:” Jesus quoted the central tenet of the Jewish faith when asked what the first of all commandments was.

          In closing, I would like to pose a few questions.
          How do you explain Matthew 1:18 & Luke 1:35? In trinitarian terms, the Father and the Holy Ghost/Spirit are two different persons. Yet, if the Holy Spirit caused Mary to conceive, how is the Father, the Father of Jesus?

          Also, how do you explain that the Son was made of a woman as Galatians 4:4 clearly states? If the Son was present in the beginning who was His mother? If the Son was a spirit being, who was His spirit mother?

          Regards,
          Steve in SC

  14. Does being baptised as a baby in the Catholic Church count for being baptised? My mother was a devote catholic and loved Jesus. When she died Jesus was present at her funeral. The brightness and the energy was over whelming.I was thrilled and exicited and was so happy for her. No one else had that experience. From that I feel being baptised as a baby was good.

      • Geri: A baby has nothing to repent for. It is not old enough to sin. However, the baby IS born with the sin of Adam on its soul, and that sin needs to be washed away. Baptism washes all sin away. In Baptism, we become part of the Body of Christ. If the baby is not Baptized, it is not part of the Body of Christ. If we are not part of Jesus, the cross does not save us. So, why would you not want the baby to be Baptized. Since Jesus told the Apostles to “let the little children come to me,” that would be a pretty good indication that babies can be Baptized. Besides, nowhere in the Bible does it say babies “can’t” be Baptized and nowhere in the Bible does it say you have to be old enough to choose to be Baptized. Jesus just said “we have to be born from above.” We have to be Baptized with “water and the Holy Spirit.” He didn’t say that we had to choose to be Baptized. Jesus said “the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.” So if the kingdom of God BELONGS to such as these, they can be Baptized. Would you make the baby wait until it can choose it and possibly take the risk that it will die before Baptism. If it dies before Baptism it would not be a part of the Body of Christ, hence the cross may not save it. Also, Paul compares Baptism to circumcision and we all know that Jesus was circumcized and named within 40 days of His birth. Peace.

      • That will answer your question as to whether being “baptised” as a baby counts. It also says we are “buried with Him in baptism”. When people are buried they are put into a 6 foot deep grave and totally covered in dirt. A baby when christened in any church is only sprinkled with water on their forehead. That certainly is not being “buried” in baptism!

    • Hi Drew,
      Very fair question. I was raised Catholic myself. Baptized, Confirmation, etc…

      This is a short answer, though your concern deserves more time and communication.

      The Father loves us and sent His Son to die for us … for our sins, right? On our behalf, He suffered. You obviously understand this.

      The most popular verse in the bible, John 3:16, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes on Him will not perish but have everlasting life”

      If you read that you’ll see it’s a response of faith to what God has done for us. My faith is fully, 100% resting on Jesus’ sacrificial death on my behalf and His raising from the dead.

      I see JoAnn’s response below. And though I really don’t have time to fully respond now, (family in hospital) I would say this:

      Drew – our eternal salvation is nothing to be liberal about. Meaning … be extremely conservative in how you approach this. JoAnn’s response leaves you in a place of, “Oh, okay … I guess I’m ok when I die then because I was baptized as a baby”.

      To me, that’s dangerous. If you have concerns, maybe it’s because of the conscience God has given you. You, me and all of us KNOW there’s something wrong. We KNOW we sin. God said, the knowledge of Him has been written on our hearts –> He was pointing to the New Testament.

      We, I, you need a Savior. Our sins are deserving of punishment. And Jesus took it upon Himself to pay our debt.

      Salvation takes a response from us. Not, I’ve done good here on earth. I have given to the poor. Or even just the phrase … I believe in God.

      It takes a believe, faith and trust in Jesus and what He did on that cross. If we think there’s any other reason for being ‘saved’, then Jesus died for nothing. It is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and not of yourselves, it is the gift of God so that no man may boast. Eph 2:8-9.

      God knows what He’s doing with all the babies and little kids in the world when they die. They are not accountable for their sin like a person who is knowingly conscience and disobedient to GOD.

      Drew, happy to respond to this later if you care to respond to this.
      Mark

      • Mark: Because of all the comments questioning the validity of infant Baptism, my response to Drew was merely to assure him that infant Baptism was indeed valid. Because people are hearing that it is not, it is confusing them and they are wondering whether they should again be Baptized. Once Baptized, always Baptized. It wasn’t a question of faith of what Jesus did for us, it was a question of infant Baptism. I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that you did about my response. I believe that you misinterpreted my comments. Of course, we rely 100% on the shed Blood of Jesus for salvation. If we love Jesus, we must obey Him. We cannot think that we can live our lives any old way because we are already saved by the Cross. Jesus said “Unless a man be born of “water” and the “Spirit” he cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven.” When we are Baptized, we become a part of Jesus’ Body. We receive the Holy Spirit. And when Jesus told His Apostles to “let the little children come to Me” he was inviting infant Baptism. Sorry you misunderstood my comment to Drew. Peace. Your sister in Christ.

        • Hi JoAnn,
          You know, I’m sorry. As I mentioned in my post, I was in a big hurry, so I skimmed your comment.

          However, reviewing things a bit now, I see a couple things worth pointing out.
          First, I appreciate your attitude in this discussion.

          You said that it’s not a question of faith, but about infant baptism. However, Drew’s question is more than just baptism. He was basing the ‘goodness’ of baptism on the fact that he felt good at his mother’s funeral.

          This not to criticize Drew, at all. However, the deeper spiritual issue is here. Do we base our eternal destination on feelings? For me, that’s not solid ground. My feelings don’t give me anything to rely on.

          It’s about God and what He has revealed to us in His Word. He has given us truth. He has laid out for us, clearly, what Jesus has done on our behalf.

          And I think your focus of telling him you’re baptism is good, it’s fine, communicates something that you may not have intended?

          I’m glad you said that we rely on Jesus shed blood, 100% for salvation. However, to say that a baby who gets baptized has been given the Holy Spirit is not what God’s Word says.

          I know you value the teachings of the Catholic traditions. If you dig even more into the Catholic traditions, you’ll find comments that go against the unity of believers in Christ.
          You said, your sister in Christ. However, based on this quote below, you’d be disagreeing with the church fathers.

          “If any one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ’s sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified … let him be accursed,” (Canon 12, Council of Trent).

          The other thing you said about Jesus meaning baptism by saying – let the little children come unto me – is not accurate. I’m not sure how you determined this from that scripture? It’s a far reach to say that’s what Jesus was saying.

          Either way JoAnn … I see how each of us desperately need a savior, which is found in Jesus. And our response to Him is through faith in what He did. Trusting Him. When we stand before Him, there’s nothing I can point to on earth, in my actions, that will justify me before Him. Only my faith In Him.

          However, as James 3 talks about—you will see my faith BY my actions. But that doesn’t mean I’ll be saved by my actions.

          Drew, not sure you’ll even see this. If you do, a great book to read is the Gospel of John in the New Testament. Jesus is very clear on who He is and what He claimed to be … God. That’s why they wanted to kill Him.
          Back to John 3:16 — if you look up the deeper meaning of that word, believe, from that verse … you’ll see that is saying a full entrusting, reliance on.

          We tend to just throw that word believe around in our society. I believe I’m feeling pretty full, for example. But believing in Jesus is like you would believe in a parachute when you’re plane is heading to earth at 1,000 mph.

          God bless you JoAnn, I pray that you dig a bit deeper into some of the history the church fathers have said. There’s a lot said that might bother you. http://www.carm.org has a strong section on this.

          I may have misunderstood some of what you said, but I think I didn’t misunderstand other parts. Either way, it’s great to have a dialogue about our Creator.

          In Christ,
          Mark

          • Mark: Hi Mark. Thank you for your response. The Catholic Church has always taught that Protestants are our “separated brothers and sisters.” My comment regarding “your sister in Christ” was appropriate. Regarding infant Baptism, Origin, (185-255) wrote that “the Church received from the Apostles the tradition of giving Baptism also to infants.” In the 4th century, St. John Chrysostom (347-407) said: “For this reason we Baptize even infants, though they do not have sins (of their own) so that there may be given to them holiness, righteousness, adoption, inheritance, brotherhood with Christ, and that they may be His members. Anytime anyone receives a “sacrament” in holiness, he/she receives the Holy Spirit into the soul. No matter what the age. This immemorial tradition of the Church is based on the statement of our Lord that “no one can enter into God’s kingdom without being begotten of water and Spirit.” John 3:5, and His plea to “let the children come to me. Do not hinder them. The kingdom of God “belongs to such as these” (Mt. 10:14). For if Baptism is required for entry into the kingdom, and the kingdom “belongs” to children, then it is reasonable to conclude that Baptism should be available to them. Baptism of infants is implied in the Acts of the Apostles when Paul Baptized Lydia “and her household” and when Peter Baptized Cornelius and “his whole family” and when Paul and Silas Baptized their jailer and “his whole household.” And in his greetings to the Corinthians, Paul recalled that, “Yes, and I did Baptize the “household of Stephanas ((1Cor 1:16) Are we to think that “whole households” left out infants? Nowhere in the Bible does it say that infants can’t be Baptized. Besides, Paul notes that Baptism has “replaced” circumcision Col 2:11-12 We know that Jesus was circumcized in the first 40 days of His life. He did’nt make the choice, obviously, Mary and Joseph did. No where did I imply that we are saved by our actions/works. I do agree with a lot of your comments. I have studied, in depth, the early Fathers and Church history, the Doctors of the Church, and the early writings of the Apostles (The Didache) for almost 70 yrs. now. I have been a Catholic for 70 plus yrs. If there is one thing I know in the deepest core of my heart, is my Faith. I gave my life to Jesus many, many, many, MANY yrs. ago. I’m enjoying our dialogue. There aren’t too many Catholics on the site but the ones that are here, all have wonderful insights about our Faith. Peace. Your sister in Christ.

    • Drew: I am a Catholic also, Baptized as a baby. Don’t let anyone tell you that being Baptized as a baby is not valid. There is beaucoup verses in the Bible that verify that it IS valid. People assume that infant Baptism is not valid because they either ignore the passages or they have misinterpreted the verses. One of the strongest verse is from Jesus Himself in Mt. 10:14 when He says “let the little children come to me, for the kingdom of Heaven is in such as these.” In Col. 2: 11-12 Paul compares Baptism to circumcision. We know that Jesus was “circumcised” as a baby. That was the “covenant” God made with Abraham at God’s insistence. It is an “act of obedience”. And, we see in Acts where the “whole” household of Cornelius was Baptized.” We cannot assume there were no babies or young children Baptized also. No where in the Bible does it say that babies can’t be Baptized. Why wouldn’t we Baptized our babies? After all, we receive the Holy Spirit with Baptism. Why would we keep that gift from babies and young children. To Baptize them, enters them into covenant with God. Parents have every right to have their babies Baptized. Once Baptized, always Baptized, no matter what the age. If parents can make decisions for their children before they can make decisions for themselves, ie meals, clothes, schools,immunisations, etc. they can certainly make a decision to have “their own baby” Baptized. The child can always choose differently when he/she is old enough to make decisions for themselves. If you are a Catholic, you know that when the child is older, (my granddaughter was in 8th grade) they can receive the Sacrament of Confirmation which completes the “grace” of Baptism by a special outpouring of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, which “seal or confirm” the Baptized in union with Christ and equip them for active participation in the worship and “apostolic life” of the Church. The child, at that time, can choose “not” to be confirmed in the “covenant.” If the moderators do not censor this and decide to go ahead and post this, I’m sure there will be all sorts of objections and accusations of “false doctrine” from non-Catholics (especially “anti-Catholics”) To them, I say, it is all in the Bible if you have “eyes to see.” Because they believe in “Bible alone” (which is NOT Biblical) they will not accept “Sacred Traditions” by mouth, as Paul told us to “hold on to.” 2 Thess 2:15. They will not accept “The Didache” (early writings and instructions of the Apostles) which specifically state that Baptism of infants is valid. They pay no attention to Jn. 21:24-25 “It is this disciple who testifies to these things and has written them, and we know that His testimony is true. THERE ARE ALSO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT JESUS DID, BUT IF THESE WERE TO BE DESCRIBED INDIVIDUALLY, I DO NOT THINK THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD CONTAIN THE BOOKS THAT WOULD BE WRITTEN.” Those “things” are the “Sacred Traditions” that were handed down “verbally” by the Paul, Peter and the Apostles. That is one of the reasons the Catholic Church is APOSTOLIC. They will not accept what St. Hippolytus of Rome said. “Baptize FIRST the children; and if they can speak for themselves, let them do so. Otherwise, “let their parents or other relatives speak for them.” Origen said “the Church received “from the Apostles” the Tradition of giving Baptism also to infants.” Drew, if you have any doubts, please research “the Faith of our Fathers” and “The 33 Doctors of the Church” for starters. Also research “The Mass of the Early Christians” by Mike Aquilina. The Mass that we celebrate today, is the same Mass that the early Christians celebrated, even in the catecombs while hiding from their persecutors. kPeace. Your sister in Christ.

  15. I came to the Lord in Late 2007 Early 2008. I had to change churches based on a video I saw titled “True Christianity vs False Christianity”. It was one DVD in a three DVD set titled “The Salvation Package”. That video is just as sobering today as it was five years ago. The words “many will seek to enter in and find they are not able” are very serious.

  16. Mark 16:16, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; 1Peter 3:21, The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us

  17. Pastor,
    So are you saying that everyone who is born again but not baptized would not go to heaven at the time of Jesus’s coming?I do not believe that is true.
    From what I know and understand,the salvation plan is supposed to be very simple.From my understanding of the word,baptism is supposed to be done after the individual has been born again,simply by accepting Jesus into their heart.
    Romans 10:9 puts it very plainly and simple.”That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
    It is not right to think that baptism can save anyone because it is just supposed to be part of living in obedience to God and being filled with the Holy Spirit. It is something God wants us to do AFTER we accept Jesus Christ as our Savior

    • @Carol: In the words of Jesus Himself, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of “water” and the “Spirit.” he “cannot” enter the kingdom of God.” John 3:5 Peace.

    • To carol – Paul definantly did say that in Romans 10:9 but consider the following :
      - in Acts 9 :18 it was Paul that was baptised in water by Ananias (the word used in the original Greek text there is baptizo and that word was used everytime in the Book of Acts regarding baptism which means to dip or immerse – the Greek word for sprinkle is rantizo which was never used regarding water baptism in Acts).
      - in Acts 16:14 it says that Lydia’s heart was opened by the Lord and that she attended unto the things spoken of by Paul and was baptised. Paul must have told her that she needed to be baptised.
      - Acts 19:1-7 says, ” And it came to pass that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the the upper coasts came to Ephesus and finding certain disciples. (2) He said unto them – have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed ? And they said unto him we have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. (3) And he said unto them – unto what then were ye baptised ? And they said unto John’s baptism (John the Baptist). (4) Then said Paul, John verily baptised with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on Him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. (5) When they heard this they were baptised in the name of the Lord Jesus. (6) And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. (7) And all the men were about 12.” Those scriptures indicate that the Holy Ghost is not automaticaly received upon believing in Jesus Christ, that water baptism in Jesus Name is extremely important, or why would Paul have done that ?, and why would Paul have laid hands on the 12 men and taken them to water to be baptised which would have taken a substantial effort to do so, if it was not extremely important to do so ?
      - it was in Galations 3: 27 that Paul said ” For as many of you as have been baptised into Christ have put on Christ”.
      The point of the above is that it is very important to look at ALL scripture to get a total understanding of what it takes to be saved, and especially what it says in the Book of Acts starting with Acts 2:38, which is when the Gospel was first preached. Acts 2:39 says “For the promise is unto you, and unto your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many the Lord our God shall call.” That means that those scriptures apply to all times in the future with no time limit.
      Regarding baptism saving us – Peter said in 1 Peter 3:21 ” Baptism DOTH also now save us.” It does so because it INITIALY REMITS SIN. Peter said in Acts 2:38 ” Repent, and be baptised every one of you in the name of JESUS CHRIST, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Also regarding that – see Acts 8:16, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:47-48, and the scriptures in Acts mentioned above.
      Regarding the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and speaking tongues – read what Irvin Baxter says about that using only scripture in ” Tongues – Devilish or Divine” on this website.
      Why not do ALL that it says to do in the book of Acts, then you can be SURE and not be taking any chances regarding your salvation ??
      daveS

      • Dear Carrol, no disrespect at all. But the law of physics in the natural world requires action for any thing we believe in for it then to function. We can believe things function but not benefit from their functions if we do not utilize them. The word is intertwined perfectly to avoid private interpretations from men. For God alone is the source for any willing human to find salvation. Roman 10:9 does have simplicity to it and it is fully true that if one confesses and believes he would be saved. But I challenge you to recall one time in this natural life that you confessed something and believed in it as well that it did not require your response to its physical laws to enjoy its full benefits. You believe cars ecsist and you can confess they are useful for transportation but if you do not obey the process of learning how to drive, putting the keys in the ignition ext. ext. you will not benefit from their purpose. Anything that is believed requires radical and absolute action on our part for us to benefit from their purpose. The spirit world is no different.

  18. I understand that being born again is when we die to the old self and what self wants. It’s no longer I who lives but He” God the Spirit”, that lives within me. It’s dying daily to self and picking up our own cross as we walk out our salvation, so all will see the good work in us that’s of the Father in heaven. The power of Gods Spirit is the only way that self is put in the grave and Gods Spirit raises us to a new spiritual life in Christ. We cannot conform to the image of Christ day by day until self is removed because the old man and the new man will never mix and have fellowship. I believe the Holy blood of Christ represents purification and our purification comes from God that gave us His perfect blood sacrifice that cleanses sin. Every element from the blood to water baptism are symbol’s of the Word of God, “The washing of the water, the living water, is the word of God, that is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the living word of God, He is living Water for the remission of sin. It’s Jesus and Jesus alone that saves. No man can boast that they had a part in saving themselves or a part in anything that God alone has the power to do.

  19. People may claim to be washed by the blood of Jesus, but if we are not walking in the light as he is in the light, that blood has not completed the job yet. 1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we are already clean why would the word of God tell us: Ephes. 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. That is a clean church. Not a church that has been washed only in physical water, but one that has truly been washed by the Holy Spirit of God, from the inside out. Not just the outside washing, but clean in every way by the Word of God.

  20. I was born again 30 years ago – baptized in a lake – received the gift of the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues – essentially BORN AGAIN Biblically – people will tell us “you don’t need the Holy Ghost” – I point them to Romans 8:9 and tell them that “God does not withhold any good thing from those who love him” – why would you not want the whole experience? John 3:3,5,7 tells us that you can’t go to heaven without the experience.

  21. To all my friends and family who are skeptical of Christianity because you are confused with all these varied beliefs, denominations, churches, bibles etc. Please believe this teaching on what it means to be Born Again. If you desire truth, listen to what the FIRST CHURCH was preaching and teaching, those who were with, and were taught by the Founder of the Church, Jesus Christ, who was simply the only living God come to earth as a man, to die for our sins.
    This teaching by Bro Baxter is the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It is the ONLY way to be saved (i.e. live eternally in heaven with God after this life on earth).
    JESUS is man’s ONLY hope beyond this life. Accept His salvation TODAY. He loves you so much.

    • Dean Harvey: From what authority do you speak? I appreciate your passion but I’m sure there are a lot of posters here who think that it is their Church that has the “whole truth and nothing but the truth.” One question we need to ask ourselves is if being “born again” is the way to salvation,then how does being born again save us if when Jesus says in Jn. 6:53 in NKJV “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have “no life” in you”? That tells me that we can be born again 100 times and we would still be unsaved unless we eat the flesh and drink the blood of Jesus. God bless.

      • John 653 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

        54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

        55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

        56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

        57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

        58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

        John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

        John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

        John 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

        33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

        • Timothy,
          I’m glad you posted the whole scripture. We cannot literally eat Jesus’ flesh and drink His blood. Just says to come to Him, who is the Living Water and who so ever drinks of Him will never thirst again. This is not literal, it’s all spiritual. Jesus’ flesh, His blood and His water is the Word of God because Jesus is the living word of God. It’s the word of God that pierces, cut’s, and replenishes the soul. Being born again is dying to self, putting our wants in the grave so God can raise us from our spiritual slumber and death to a new life in Christ and Him alone. No ritual that people do in a church building gives eternal life. Eternal life is being conformed to the image of Christ after we have been raised from a spiritual death. This is what God means when He looks at us and He sees His Son. The old man can never live along with our new life in Christ, the 2 will never mix because our flesh and the Spirit of God are in conflict one with another. The Lord in all His glory will open eye’s to see and ears to hear this truth if one is willing to die to self and surrendering to God so He can raise them from the dead.

          • sherry: If Jesus did not mean it literally, why did some disciples “walk away?” They knew Jesus meant it literally. It was too hard for them to hear. Did Jesus not “change” the bread and wine into His actual Body and Blood at the Last Supper? Did He not tell His Apostles to do the same thing. 1 Cor 10:16 – “Is not the cup of blessing we bless a sharing in the “Blood” of Christ? And is not the bread we break a sharing in the “Body of Christ?” Also, 1 Cor 11:26-29 – “Every time, then, you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until He comes! “This means that whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord “unworthily” sins against the Body and Blood of the Lord. A man should examine himself first, only then should he eat of the bread and drink of the cup. He who eats and drinks without “recognizing” the body eats and drinks a judgment on himself.” sherry, I ask you, if the Eucharist is just a symbol, why would Paul say we bring “condemnation” on ourselves if we eat and drink “unworthily?” Why would he say that he who eats and drinks without “recognizing” the body eats and drinks a “judgment” on himself? In our Mass, the bread and wine still looks like bread and wine BUT by the power of the Holy Spirit, it has been changed into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus. That’s called “transubstantiation.” Did not God rain down “manna” from Heaven for the Hebrews in the desert to feed them? As you know, the NT is hidden in the OT and the OT is revealed in the New. The “manna” was an OT foreshadowing of the NT Eucharist. Since Jesus fulfills the NT, there are no more symbols, just the reality. Also, back in Genesis 14:18 Melchizedek gave Abraham bread and wine and blessed Abraham and Abraham gave Melchizedek a 10th of everthing he owned. That was the very first foreshadowing of the Eucharist. Of course, Abraham’s name was Abram at that time. I find it interesting that when some of the disciples “walked away,” that the incident was in verse, John 6:66. Peace. Your sister in Christ.

  22. Love your teaching, however quick question, if someone on their death bed received the Lord Jesus Christ, would they not be with the Lord in paradise/be saved?

    • There are different factors that would have to be taken into consideration but it is important to know that God is the judge. We can use the scriptures to understand what we must do to be saved but God will be the judge of it all. God bless.

  23. 1. Who is taken from the earth during the Rapture? Believers or Non-Believers?
    2. If believers are left behind on earth during the Rapture, does that mean believers
    will be on earth during the Tribulation?
    3. How can we be caught up to meet Him in the air and on earth during the Tribulation
    at the same time? This is one reason I have trouble reading the Bible. I’m a believer
    in Christ, God, and the Holy Spirit. Its’ an easy choice. The alternative in Satan and Hell
    and my life on earth has been Hell enough. Its’ easy to beg forgiveness. I’ve been baptised
    by immersion, twice. First, when I was 12 yrs old and at 42 yrs old when I retired from the Air Force.
    I don’t mind not understanding everything, right now. I’m not the Trinity. I can’t think or plan the
    way they do. But when I discovered Rev. Baxter’s teachings, I felt I understood more than ever.
    Finally, in the scripture that says a believer will be saved and his house. Yet, every individual
    must repent, be baptized and accept the Holy Spirit. Which one is it? Can my belief save my
    unsaved husband? Surely, to be saved he must accept Christ for himself.
    Thank you for all your help. I don’t know why God just doesn’t turn the heart of a rich man like
    Warren Buffett and hand you as many millions for your college in Israel as you need. Isn’t that
    what is meant by the wealth of the wicked is layed up for the just?
    God Bless All Of You.
    Patt

  24. Thank you for your teaching and your radio and television broadcasts. I have been born again. It seems to have happened in stages for me. I fell in love with Jesus when I was a small child in spite of a life that was nearly consumed with all kinds of chaos and abuse. He saved me and guided me away from the worst of the darkness that encompassed much of my youth and young adulthood. I believe that I was saved then. As an adult, I was baptized in the name of Jesus with full immersion. I believe that I have been indwelt by the Holy Spirit my whole life. I have had evidences of this from time to time, but I don’t believe that I have every spoken in tongues. I have laughed and danced and cried and sang with God from my very deepest soul and I have communed with our Father in the holiest of times, but the fact remains that I have not spoken in tongues. What does this mean? My life has been totally redeemed and transformed. I love the Lord with all of my heart, mind, body and soul. I am not perfect but I am being perfected from grace to grace. The speaking in tongues thing is my first question. My second question is this. I used to feel like my faith must be flawed because all the preachers on television told me, and the Bible says, if I believe and I pray according to God’s will, it will be granted unto me. I have many health problems including spinal disc issues and chronic deep pain and other issues. I have prayed many times to be delivered and healed. I have learned to accept that God is good all the time whether He heals me or not and that my job is to glorify His name in whatever condition I am in. This is also preached by Paul. So where is the real deal? What is the fullness of truth? I have been given many gifts for which I am truly grateful and content that I can carry out my work for the Kingdom even if I am disabled. It is a learning process. I give what I have been blessed to give. So what do you think?

    Shelley

    • Shelley: I know you were addressing your question to someone in Irvin’s ministry, but I hope you don’t mind if I make a comment or two. Shelley, you have been given a great gift. From your comments, I believe that you truly belong to Christ. Speaking in tongues, is not necessary for salvation. Do not fret about it. You question your suffering. Suffering is a gift from God to all who are in Christ. In Col. 1:24 Paul says “Even now I find my joy in the suffering I endure for you. In my own flesh, I fill up what is “lacking” in the sufferings of Christ for the sake of His body, the Church.” I am 73 and not in the best of health either, but the first thing I do when I wake up in the morning is thank God for another day and for ALL things, good and bad. Of course, the good gifts we always welcome but it’s the bad that we question, especially when we try to live our lives for no one but Christ. Joy and suffering are gifts from God. When I am in pain, I think of the pain Jesus suffered. When I do that, it reminds me of how inconsequential my pain is compared to what He suffered. If I’m having a migraine, I think of the crown of thorns on Christ’s head. Then somehow, my headache doesn’t hurt as much. When my arthritis acts up, I think of the beating Jesus received before His crucifixion. No matter how disappointing a day may be, I thank God that He has blessed me with another day to glorify Him. I hope my comments have helped. I will pray for you. God bless.

  25. @ Steve in SC: Hi. I am really enjoying our dialogue. I want to thank the moderators for allowing us to have this conversation. Isn’t it funny, how 2 people can read the same verses from the same Bible and come up with 2 different interpretations? That’s the problem with self interpretation. The Holy Spirit is the God of truth, not the God of confusion. The reason Catholics believe that infant Baptism is valid is because that’s what was taught by the Apostles by “word”. As you know since your wife was Catholic, Catholics believe that the “word of God” comes to us through the Bible and through sacred Traditions. We do not believe in “sola scriptura” as that is not what the Bible teaches. As a matter of fact, in 1 Timothy 3:15, it teaches that it is the “Church” that is the “pillar and foundation of “Truth.” Since Jesus is the “Truth”, it is the Church that teaches the “Truth.” St. Ignatius, who was the Bishop of Antioch, in his letter to the Smyrneans in 107 AD said “Where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.” Paul also tells us “to hold fast to the Traditions that are taught to us by writings and by “word.” What were your thoughts of Paul comparing circumcision to Baptism in Col 1:11-12? Since the Catholic Church is an Apostolic Church, (meaning that our priests and bishops, etc are direct successors of the Apostles) the Catholic Church has those teachings by “word” handed down through her. So, therefore, infant Baptism was handed down from the Apostles to the Church by Tradition and word. And in their teachings, they show us that infant Baptism by the “sprinkling or pouring” of water is valid. The person or parent can also choose immersion if they want. My cousin had her baby boy immersed when he was Baptized. Needless to say, he wasn’t amused. LOL. Baptism, as we know, bestows the Holy Spirit upon the Baptizee and gives him/her grace to help them along the path to holiness. The Bible teaches that we are born with the sin of Adam and Eve on our souls (Catholics call it Original Sin) and of course, Baptism removes all sin and gives us the Holy Spirit. That’s why Catholics Baptize their infants. Catholics, also have a sacrament called Confirmation. When a child is in 7th or 8th grade (my granddaughter was in 8th grade) they are eligible to receive Confirmation. This is a child that has been Baptized as an infant and they have the opportunity to “choose” or affirm their dedication to God as a baby or refuse it. Confirmation also bestows the Holy Spirit on the receiver to help them along with their journey to God. As inferred in the Bible, Catholics have 7 sacraments. Protestants have two because when Luther left the Catholic Church, he removed 5 sacraments from the Protestant beliefs. Protestants only recognize Baptism and the Lambs Supper. Is that correct? Catholics believe that a “sacrament” is an outward sign, instituted by God to give grace.” And these sacraments are administered throughout life to help us stay close to God. Some of the earliest writings of the Apostles called “The Didache” teaches about those sacraments and some of the methods of administering them. God bless.

    • I apologize for taking some time to reply to your post, but work and life in general keep ya busy sometimes! I agree with you, the EndTime moderators are excellent!

      Regarding private interpretation & tradition:
      I couldn’t agree more that private interpretation is a huge problem. According to Jewish tradition, Scripture interprets Scripture. Remembering that Jesus and His disciples were Jewish, and that the Bible was written by Jews, we can safely assume that they also believed Scripture interprets Scripture.
      However, Jesus also spoke about traditions being a problem, one example is Mark 7:9 “And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” & another is Mark 7:13 “Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.”
      According to Paul’s writings in Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Also, 2 Thessalonians 3:6 “Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.”
      So, we see that tradition(s) have a place, so long as they are kept in order. Tradition does not overrule Scripture, and it must be in complete unity with Scripture. According to Scripture we should “dwell together in unity,” “keep the unity of the Spirit,” and “come in the unity of the faith.” If we are not in unity with His Word, then we are in the state of disunity.
      An example of a common tradition that I believe most Christians are familiar with is blessing our food. This example is in complete unity with the Word, and we see several times that Jesus blessed the food in Scripture.
      An example of a Catholic tradition that stands at odds with Jesus’ own words has to do with “St. Constantine.” The story says Constantine had a vision, and was told to “conquer by this” (the sign of Christ). Then in a dream he was visited by Christ, and Christ commanded him to make a symbol on his army’s shields like he saw in the sky, and that it would protect them in battle. What’s the big deal, right? Well, this is a direct contradiction to Jesus’ own words as shown in the following Scripture(s). Matthew 5:39 “But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.” Matthew 26:52 “Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.” John 18:36 “Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” Acts 1:6-7 “When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.” They asked this question knowing that the Messiah is going to rule with a rod of iron. We also see in Revelation that when Jesus returns He will then fight for us. We are commanded to follow peace (Romans 14:19, 2 Timothy 2:22, Hebrews 12:14). Why would Jesus repeatedly tell us not to fight and then tell a Catholic Saint to fight under His sign? Because it has become a tradition, this contradiction is commonly overlooked and accepted as factual and as a Christian truth among Catholics. Ephesians 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Constantine’s vision stands in direct opposition to the Word of God, yet he is venerated as a saint, and his story taught as truth according to tradition. This example is in complete disunity with the Word, as we see several times in Scripture that we are commanded to “follow peace with all men.”

      Regarding Water Baptism & Sola Scriptura:
      Since Baptism is often spoken of in the New Testament, doesn’t it seem strange that infant Baptism is not once mentioned, or even alluded to? Instead, on every occasion of Baptism we find that someone has had a conversion experience, after someone else has preached the Gospel of Jesus’ Death, Burial, and Resurrection to them (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). As you stated, “For God is not the author of confusion, (1 Corinthians 14:33)” Wouldn’t you agree that God has made it clear beyond reasonable doubt the importance of Baptism? Why then would He leave aspects of Baptism unexplained in His written Word? Why make His instructions so clear on everything else, yet on Baptism, which He says is vitally important (Mark16:16, Acts 2:38, Acts 10:48, Acts 22:16, Romans 6:3, Galatians 3:27), He leaves out the “How To” instructions and decides to pass it along by word of mouth? Word of mouth, in terms of humanity, is absolutely the worst possible way to transfer information down through time. In a room of 30 people, if you were to tell a very short story, by the time it made its way through the room and back to the originator it would be, at best completely erroneous, at worst an entirely different story. God did not intend for us to have to guess at His plan. So He put His Word into a written format for every man, woman, and child. God has given us His written Word by inspiration (2Timothy 3:16) and the moving of the Holy Ghost upon holy men of God (2 Peter 1:21).
      How, or why, do we arrive at the idea that 2 Thessalonians 2:15 (“Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.”) implies there were things passed down only by mouth, and they were not written down for us? This interpretation of this particular Scripture is a direct contradiction to 2 Timothy 3:15-17, which says that we may be perfect and thoroughly furnished by the Holy Scriptures, and makes no mention of “by mouth doctrines.” There is no logical way to explain this verse and say that some things were only passed down by word of mouth. We are either able to be made perfect by obedient faith to His Word, or not.
      Again, as previously posted, I must emphasize that in regards to the word baptism in the New Testament, by very definition it requires immersion, and excludes the extra-Biblical definitions for water baptism which are sprinkling and/or pouring.

      Verses for why to use Sola Scriptura:
      Psalm 119:89 “For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.”
      Isaiah 40:8 “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.”
      John 17:17 “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.”
      2 Timothy 3:15-17 ”And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”

      I definitely disagree with the Catholic tradition and doctrine that the Bible does not teach Sola Scriptura. 2 Timothy 3 (shown above) makes it explicitly clear that by the Holy Scriptures alone, not by word of mouth or other writings, we may be perfect and thoroughly furnished. Thus leaving no reason to create, or room to insinuate the need for extra-Biblical ideas.

      Regarding 1 Timothy 3:15
      Absolutely Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life! The word of God is also the truth. Everything Jesus said, or did, agreed with Scripture. He even said “they are they which testify of me…”
      John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
      John 17:17 “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.”
      I refer you to the above, 2 Timothy 3:15-17, for where I find my belief that everything we need for salvation, and how to live a holy life pleasing to our Creator, is found in the Word of God. At judgment we see that “the books were opened” (Revelation 20:12) and another book, the book of life, was opened. What “books” do you suppose these are? According to the Scripture(s) I have shown you, the Bible is where we learn of salvation, where we find doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness. We see here that “the books” we will be judged out of, are His Word. Then why wouldn’t I live my life by His Word alone?
      I have no problem with a man of God writing books that will help me with something that I may have been struggling to understand in the Bible. I do not use his written works in place of God’s Word, but simply as a supplement to help me understand something that is otherwise hard to be understood. However, his writings must agree 100% with the Word, or I cannot use it to help build my relationship with God. If one portion of his book falls out of agreement with God’s Word, how can I know he truly understands the portion of God’s Word that I am struggling with?
      Here’s another example of a Catholic tradition that contradicts the Bible.
      Matthew 23:9 “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”
      We know from the context, that Jesus is speaking in the spiritual sense. Yet, the Catholic church calls all of their priests “father” and the pope the “holy father” in the spiritual sense. I have spoken with a Catholic priest about this very subject before. He cited Jesus could not have meant it this way, and also they do this because Paul referred to Titus as “mine own son” and Timothy as “dearly beloved son.” If we simply left it at that, and did not study for ourselves, we could accept that. After studying the Scriptures though, it shows us clearly what Paul is saying in these verses. Example: Philippians 2:22 “But ye know the proof of him, that, AS A son with the father, he hath served with me in the gospel.” These young men were obedient to Paul & his ministry. They worked with him in every way, the same as a son would work with his natural father. (Especially in those days, where the sons took on the trades of their fathers) Also, we see no place where Paul calls Ananias “father.” Ananias was the one to pray for Paul, Acts 9, and instructed Paul to arise and be baptized. Nor do we see Paul call Peter “holy father.” Instead, Paul simply calls Peter by his name (Galatians 2:11). Seeing Paul refer to these younger men as “sons” in no way implies that they called him “father” in spiritual terms, or even in physical terms; Paul instead makes clear beyond a reasonable doubt what he means by calling them his “sons” in Philippians 2:22. On another note within the same context, Paul refers to himself in a maternal sense in Galatians 4:19 when he says, “…of whom I travail in birth…” There is no need to state which parent travails during child bearing, that’s pretty obvious. So, does this mean Paul is spiritually their mother? If so, how can he also be their father? If he is neither, how do we understand what is meant here? These are simply figurative expressions. This explanation excludes the possibility of contradiction and agrees with the rest of the Word, that God is our Father (Matthew 23:9, Ephesians 4:6), and that He does the work of salvation, and not us (Matthew 1:21, Romans 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-10).

      Galatians 2:11 even goes a step further than I have already pointed out, and is a slap in the face of the “infallibility” of the popes, because it says Peter was to be blamed. Blamed here is “kataginosko” in Greek which is “to note against” or “to find fault with.” If popes are infallible (incapable of error), and according to the Catholic church Peter was the first pope, this verse and Paul must be wrong. But we know that God’s Word is truth according to Jesus in John 17:17.

      You said “Baptism… bestows the Holy Spirit upon the Baptizee” & “Confirmation also bestows the Holy Spirit on the receiver.” I must admit I am a bit confused on when a person, according to Catholicism, receives the Holy Ghost.
      According to the Bible, water Baptism does not automatically give someone the Holy Ghost. Acts 8:5-17 gives us the account of Philip going down to Samaria. In v 6-7 they had miracles, v 8 they had great joy, v 12-13 they were baptized. According to Catholic tradition & doctrine, these people should already have the Holy Ghost, but the Bible says otherwise. Acts 8:14-16 “Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)” So, we see here that these people were already baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, but they had not yet received the Holy Ghost. This is about a clear a statement as could be made that water Baptism and the infilling of the Holy Ghost are not the same thing, and having one does not mean you have the other. Let’s look at another account in Acts 10. (I would advise everyone to read the entire chapter, but for posting purposes let’s review the pertinent verses.) V44 says Peter was still speaking to them and the Holy Ghost fell on them, v46 says they knew the Holy Ghost had fallen on them “for they heard them speak with tongues…” v47 Peter says that these people have not been baptized yet, v48 Peter commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. In this instance we see that people received the Holy Ghost before water baptism, of course Peter still commanded them to be baptized afterward.
      These two are part of salvation, neither one is complete without the other according to what we read here and according to the apostles own teachings. As Bro. Baxter and EndTime have already pointed out, the water Baptism and infilling of the Holy Ghost, along with repentance, agree together in one work (1 John 5:8, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Acts 2:38). This is the work of God and the plan of salvation for every man.

      I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t know what a Protestant believes as far as sacraments. Catholics and Protestants alike disavow Oneness Pentecostals.

      In His Peace,
      Steve in SC

      • First of all, I want to again, thank the moderators for letting this dialogue continue. It is very informative for both of us. Don’t you agree Steve?
        Wow, there is a lot to digest in your post. Let’s just take one topic at a time. First of all, let’s talk about the difference between tradition with small “t” and “Sacred Tradition.” When Jesus was talking about traditions (small t), he was speaking of all the laws and customs of the OT, ie sacrificing animals and customs that the Jews had and were having trouble giving up. Jesus was referring to human traditions or customs that can be modified or even abandoned over time, such as the ritual of washing of hands. You can refer to Leviticus for them. Jesus was not talking about “Sacred Traditions.” Sacred Traditions are the Traditions that Paul was talking about. When Catholics use Tradition with a capital “T”, they mean what St. Paul meant when he told the Thessalonians to “hold fast to the Traditions you received from us, either by our “word” or by letter.” 2 Thess. 2:15. Or when he told Timothy: “The things which you have heard from me through many witnesses you must hand on to trustworthy men who will be able to teach others.” 2 Tim. 2:2 Finally, it doesn’t make sense to claim that the Bible is the “only” guide to salvation. Jesus never said it was. He told the Apostles to “go forth and “teach.” not to go forth and write a book. Furthermore, millions of people have lived and died without ever seeing a Bible, either because one was not available to them or because they could not read. Jesus established the Catholic Church to help us get to Heaven by acting as an authentic and living interpreter of the Bible and Tradition. (remember the Church is guided by the Holy Spirit) Rather than having each person try to decide what a biblical passage means – the disastrous results of that approach can be seen in the hundreds of religious denominations that have sprung up in recent centuries – Jesus gave us an infallible teaching authority to tell us how God wants us to live and what we must do to get to Heaven. When Jesus established His Church, He promised He would send a “Paraclete” to guide that Church, and the “gates of Hades” would NOT prevail against it. In 1 Tim 3:15 it says that it is the “Church” that is the pillar and foundation of “truth” not the Bible. Since Jesus is the Church/Truth, it is the Church that teaches the Word of God. Besides, where do you think the Bible came from? We didn’t have one until the late 4th century. So before then, all the people were taught by “Sacred Traditions.” Even Jn 21:25 teaches that “There are still many other things that Jesus did, yet if they were written about in detail, I doubt there would be room enough in the entire world to hold the books to record them.” The Catholic Church teaches those “things” because those “things” were handed down from the Apostles and their successors through the Church. There is nothing the Catholic Church teaches that is contrary to the Bible. Just because Protestants do not accept “Sacred Traditions” doesn’t mean that “Sacred Traditions” aren’t the Truth. This is going to be a shocker, but it is the Catholic Church that GAVE us the Bible. Who do you think decided to put all the books in the Bible there to begin with? If we didn’t have the Bible until the late 4th century and the Catholic Church was the only Church on the planet at that time, where did the Bible come from? It was the Catholic Church under Pope Damasus I in council with other “fathers of the Church” in the 4th century, that decided which manuscripts and writings of the prophets and writers of the New Testament would make up the Canon of the Bible. Sooo, if the Catholic Church gave us the Bible, why on earth would anyone think that the Catholics would contradict the Bible? There is nothing in Catholic teaching that contradicts the Bible but there are plenty of “so-called Catholics” who DO NOT follow Biblical teachings and Protestants too. You know Steve, our Faith (yours and mine) has an awesome history. Just like America has an awesome history. If we don’t know where we Americans came from and how America was founded, then how do we know where we are going. So, if we don’t know where our Faith came from and we don’t know all there is to know about it, then we are being lax in our studies. Jesus said “Seek and ye shall find.” Sure, living a Biblical life according to God’s written word is “profitable” for attaining salvation, but NOT the only way to attain salvation. There is so much more out here that can bring us even closer to Jesus than you can imagine. The intimacy that Catholics share with Jesus is out here and ready for the taking. I’m not saying Protestants do not have any intimacy with Jesus, they do. But they need to try to understand what Catholics believe and why because as Jesus prayed in the Garden before His death “THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE ONE.” In the 73 years that I have sat in a pew at Mass, I have never, ever heard a priest, bishop or any man of the cloth, talk about Protestant churches with so much disdain that is directed toward Catholics and the Church. I’m not saying it hasn’t happened, I’m just saying I never heard any hatred towards Protestants, EVER in my blessed lifetime. We have nothing but love for our separated brothers and sisters. Steve, my post has gotten quite lengthy so we can (if you want) address your other topics (one at a time) otherwise it would take hours to discuss some of the topics that you think is in contradiction to the Bible. Like “call no man father” which, by the way, I can show you that it is quite Biblical. God bless.

        • JoAnn, Jesus never told us how to get to heaven. He told us how to receive and inheritance to the coming kingdom on earth. God bless.

          • Craig: What’s the difference? Receive, get. inherit. It all means the same. It’s just a matter of semantics. Peace.

  26. @ Steven in SC
    Hi Steve. Thank you for your post. And thank you for sharing your beautiful faith-filled story. I am a Catholic which is the translation of the Greek word “Katholikos” which means “universal.” It sounds like you love the Bible as much as I do. This is how I see Baptism. Just because people get into the water doesn’t necessarily mean that they were submerged. The reason I say that is because when I read the story of when Philip was sent into the desert and met up with the Ethiopian and after Philip shared the Gospel with him, it says in Acts. 8:38-39 “So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he Baptized him. Now when “THEY” came up out of the water, “the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing.” To me, that implies that they both “walked into the water” because they “both came up” out of the water. If you read that to mean that going into the water meant submersion, then it would imply that Philip was submerged also because they “both” came up out of the water. And we know Philip doesn’t have to be submerged as he has already been Baptized. Do you see where I’m coming from? The only time you can surmise immersion (and even that is iffy) was when Jesus was Baptized. . We both know that the New Testament is hidden in the Old Testament and the OT is revealed in the NT. Sooo, in the OT most events including water usually meant a cleansing of some kind; like the Great Flood. When God saved Noah and his family and flooded the earth, that was a cleansing. A foreshadow of NT Baptism. Then in Ezekiel 36:16-37 regarding the “regeneration and cleansing of the People” Ez 36:25 says “Then I will “sprinkle” clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.” Baptism cleanses us from all sin. The reason Catholics and some Protestant Faiths believe in “infant baptism” is because, as I said earlier, the Jewish custom was to take their 8 day old baby boys and present them in the temple to enter into a covenant with God and be “named and circumcised.” Now an 8 day old baby cannot make the decision to covenant with God, their parents did that for them. In Col. 1:11-12, Paul compares circumcision to Baptism. And when Peter Baptized Cornelius’ whole family, we cannot assume that there were or were not any babies. Jesus said “Do not stop the little children from coming to Me.” All these quotes, I have taken from the NKJV. Thoughts? God bless.

    • Hi Joann,
      I knew you were Catholic by some of what you said in your prior post(s). My wife was Catholic when we met. In fact, she was raised Catholic and if I recall correctly she attended a Catholic school until she was high school age. I am happy to have met you, albeit in a virtual sense.
      I would like to quickly show that there are words in the New Testament that could have been used instead of Baptism, if it (baptism) were done by sprinkling or pouring.
      Rhantizo/Rhantismos is Greek for “sprinkled/sprinkling” and is used in Hebrews 9:13, 19, & 21; Hebrews 10:22; Hebrews 12:24; 1 Peter 1:2.
      Proschusis is Greek for “to pour; sprinkling” and is used in Hebrews 11:28.
      The interesting thing about both Greek words here is that they are used in reference to the blood of Jesus. And they are used to describe Christ’s sacrifice metaphorically in connection with Old Testament blood sacrifices. These references do not show us a method of Baptism. Instead they show that there were Greek words used in the New Testament that could have been alternated in place of the word Baptism to allow for sprinkling. So, we see here and from my previous post that the words Baptism and Sprinkling are not compatible, and do not relay the same message.

      I have thought on your view of Baptism, first I would like to address Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch.
      The point I would like to make is this. In order to “baptize” (to whelm), Philip would HAVE to walk down into the river/water with the eunuch. We have to remember that in our age we have the luxury of a baptismal tank. I can stand outside of the tank next to the baptismal candidate, while they are actually fully in the water. On the other hand, if Philip simply sprinkled water over the eunuch, there is no reason for either of them to walk into the water. If it were only a sprinkle, Philip could have cupped it in his hand and sprinkled it over/onto him. If we are to assume that Philip sprinkled the eunuch, then it was pointless for both of them to wade into the water. However, this passage actually gives all the explanation we really need to understand and remove any doubt of how Philip actually baptized the eunuch. “…they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and “HE BAPTIZED HIM” and when they were come up out of the water…” We know from the context, and grammatical structure, that the “he” is Philip, and the “him” is the eunuch. Therefore, it plainly states that Philip baptized the eunuch, not that they were both baptized. We baptize people in a lake near my church. In order to do so, we must go down into the water with them, baptize them, and then come up out of the water with them. Otherwise, we would be standing in the water alone and for no reason. The reason for including in this verse that Philip came “up out of the water” with the eunuch is because it further explains that when they were out of the water, THAT is when Philip was caught away. Not while they were still in the water, but after the baptism was completed, and they were both on dry ground. Imagine this verse without the added clarification of Philip’s catching away happening after the baptism was done. “They both went down into the water, he baptized him, was caught away, then the eunuch came up out of the water.” Could you imagine the reaction of the poor eunuch had this been the case? The phrase “came up out of the water” does not imply that they both were baptized, or immersed. Rather it clarifies that they both were standing in the water, and after the baptism both departed from the water.

      Next, I will attempt to address “The only time you can surmise immersion (and even that is iffy) was when Jesus was Baptized.”

      John 3:23 “And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.”
      I would like to pay close attention to the part of this verse that says, “.., because there was much water there…” Consider this for a moment. If John the Baptist were using sprinkling for the multitudes, why would he need to be near an area where there was “much water”? I believe you would agree that sprinkling does not require very much water. Even if I were to sprinkle a congregation of 25 people, I cannot imagine it would take much more than an 8oz glass of water. With a gallon I could then sprinkle 400 people. There would simply be no need for John to station himself near “much water”, and especially the Jordan to sprinkle people with water. The context of Scripture not only implies immersion, but requires it to be so in order for us to understand the references made. Even if we cut my estimation in half, a gallon would still sprinkle 200 people.
      In regards to “When God saved Noah and his family and flooded the earth, that was a cleansing. A foreshadow of NT Baptism.”
      I would have to say we are in 100% agreement here. We also must read what the Bible says about the waters of the flood.
      Genesis 7:19-20 “And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, “WERE COVERED.” Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains “WERE COVERED.”
      Since we agree that this was a foreshadowing of NT Baptism, we should also agree that according to Scripture the waters “COVERED” the earth, and all of the sin that was in the world. God did not eradicate the sinful world by a sprinkle, or even a hard rain as we might see today. He flooded and covered the earth. The sin was completely washed away!
      Likewise we see the children of Israel after they had repented of Egypt. That is to say, they did a 180 and left that sinful place behind. God parted the Red Sea for them to pass over on dry ground, but the Egyptians refused to let them go. After the children were safely on the other side of the Sea, the Egyptians, which were bond masters to Israel, just as sin is a bond master to us today, refused to let them go and tried to follow them to the other side. But God wouldn’t let that sin follow them through the water! God washed away the Egyptians by covering them and drowning them in the same water that He used to save His children!
      In Ezekiel we see another shadow and it directly uses the word “sprinkle.” Yet when we get to the New Testament there is not one reference or word used, and there were words readily available as I have previously shown, to say or justify sprinkling as the New Testament way for water baptism. As you have rightly said, the Old Testament gives us a shadow of the good things to come in the New Testament. A shadow is nothing more than an imperfect or faint representation of the real thing. So even in the powerful descriptions we see at the flood and of the children of Israel as they depart the land of bondage, we only see an imperfect and faint representation of the good thing to come. We see the fullness of His plan in the New Testament, and it is shown over and over again. When they used the word “bapto” or any derivative thereof, according to the very definition of the word, they were speaking of being covered or engulfed completely.
      Think of it this way, if immersion is how Jesus did it, and we are to be reconciled to God by Jesus Christ, shouldn’t we follow His example? If we are buried with Him in baptism (Romans 6:4, Colossians 2:12), shouldn’t we be buried as He was buried? The stone covered His tomb, as we are to be covered in baptism.

      As previously stated, I dedicated my children to God, and baby dedication was also done in the Old Testament (1 Samuel 1). We are to teach our children who God is, what God is, and what He has done for us. I will fulfill my duties as their earthly father and raise them how they should go. I will do my best to show them at all times the love of Christ and to continually teach and preach to them His Word. Inevitably, they will have to decide for themselves if they will live for God. They will have to repent of their sins, decide to be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, and allow Him to fill them with His Spirit. Jesus told His disciples “suffer the little children to come unto me” but He does not command them to baptize children that have no understanding of their sin. Don’t prevent the children from learning who Jesus is. On the contrary, we should teach them, show them, help them, and encourage them to learn of and seek Him. I encourage everyone to dedicate their children to the Lord. In so doing, you are making a promise that you will do the very best you can to raise them in the way that they should go. That is, in the fear of the Lord, and in seeking after Him continually.
      1 Peter 3:21 “The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:” How as a newborn baby with no conscience to speak of, are we to understand sin, and to then be concerned about having a good conscience toward God?
      (quotes from KJV)

      In His Peace,
      Steve in SC

  27. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit,…because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
    1 John 5:8 …there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood:…
    The problem is that the enemy wants you to believe a lie and be damned, if you try to take away the water,blood and Spirit you have a powerless religion that is Biblically illiterate (don’t be offended that just means that you don’t know, but you do not have to stay that way)!

  28. Are you Born again
    Just believe in Jesus as a chilled you are born again you will start loving Him as He loves you.
    How can you know that you are Born again please check
    Are you able to full fill the Ten Commandments?’
    Can you truthfully pray Lord’s Prayer?
    Can you affirm your faith without any doubt?

    THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.

    1. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
    2. Thou shalt not take the name of th Lord, thy God, in vain [for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain].
    3. Thou shalt sanctify the holy-day. [Remember the Sabbath-day to keep it holy.]
    4. Thou shalt honor thy father and mother [that thou mayest live long upon the earth].
    5. Thou shlt not kill.
    6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
    7. Thou shalt not steal.
    8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
    9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house.
    10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his man-servant, nor his maidservant, nor his cattle [ox, nor his ass], nor anything that is his.

    THE Lords PRAYER,
    Our Father who art in heaven. Hallowed be Thy name.
    Thy kingdom com Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread.
    And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
    And lead us not into temptation.But deliver us from evil. [For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever.] Amen.

    Our faith
    I believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
    And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord; who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead and buried; He descended into hell; the third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
    I believe in the Holy Ghost, the holy Christian Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen.

  29. God says in Acts: 2:38 to repent, be baptized and receive the Holy Ghost..You actually do receive something…If someone gave you a gift you would receive something..Its just not the fact that you say you are saved…Although, I will say one thing unless your heart is right with God you will not receive it…

  30. Brother Irvin: We cannot “assume” that Baptism is by immerging only, no more than we can “assume” that when entire families were Baptized there were no babies or young children included. In Acts, when Peter preached to 3000 people and added all of them to the Church that day, we cannot “assume” that there were no babies or children among the 3000. I’m sure that if babies or young children could not be Baptized, the Apostles would have specifically said so and it would have been recorded in the Bible. You say that babies are not able to understand the choice for Jesus, yet within 40 days of Jesus’ birth, His parents brought Jesus to the temple for dedication and to enter Him into the covenant with God with His circumcision. If the Old Testament foreshadows the New Testament, (as you have commented) then Jesus was Baptized (in a sense) by His dedication and circumcision. Even Paul compares circumcision to Baptism. So, since the New Testament is hidden in the Old Testament, and the Old Testament is revealed in the New Testament, that would make infant Baptism valid. Besides, Jesus told His Apostles to NOT stop the “little” children from coming to Him for the Kingdom of God was in such as those. The Bible does NOT teach “sola scriptura” it never has. BUT, in 1 Timothy 3:15, the Bible tells us that it is the CHURCH that is the “foundation of TRUTH.” God bless.

    • Hi JoAnn,
      I wanted to address your statement “We cannot “assume” that Baptism is by immerging only”
      The English word Baptism is from the Greek word baptisma. The Greek baptisma is from the Greek word bapto, which means “to whelm, i.e. cover wholly with a fluid” Furthermore, baptize is from the Greek baptizo, which means “to make whelmed.”
      Whelm, according to Merriam-Webster, means “to turn (as a dish or vessel) upside down usually to cover something: cover or engulf completely with usually disastrous effect.” So, to be “whelmed” you must be covered or engulfed completely. By definition, baptism means to be immersed.
      When reading in the Bible that people were “baptized” in water, we understand that they were covered or engulfed completely. You cannot be completely covered or engulfed in water via sprinkling a few times. Mark 1:5 & 9 says that John baptized people in the river of Jordan, and that Jesus was also baptized of John in Jordan. Now that we know the meaning of the word “baptize” we understand that they were completely covered or engulfed, which is to say immersed, in the water.
      The purpose of Baptism is the washing away of our sins, or the “remission” of sins. To have your sins remitted means to be released from the guilt or penalty of those sins. If we are still guilty of sins, then the price we must pay for them is death (Romans 6:23). Our sins must be remitted; otherwise we retain the guilt for them, and then must pay the penalty.
      Here is a Scriptural reference confirming this understanding of baptism. Acts 22:16 “And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.”
      We find throughout the Word that repentance and water baptism are both required. (Luke 13:3, Hebrews 9:22, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16). Much as soap and water are required to wash away all germs from your body while bathing. Without soap you can wash away visible dirt, but the germs from that dirt are still there. The naked eye cannot see the germs, but through a microscope they are visible. Without His blood and water baptism we appear clean to those around us looking through the naked eye. But it is God that sees us as if through a microscope, looking on the inward parts of man. Jeremiah 17:10 “I the LORD search the heart…”
      Understanding that we are to repent and be baptized also helps us to understand about the controversy surrounding infant baptism. At what age did you begin to understand the penalty for sin, and that sin is what separates us from God?
      This is my childhood testimony. I was raised on a church pew, as the saying goes. My parents were VERY active with God, not only at church services, but at home. My dad claimed our bedroom was our “men’s prayer room” when I was a toddler. I had 2 older brothers, and we shared a room at the time. Our bedroom had become our prayer room, and my mother could not come in during “men’s prayer.” My dad did not play with us during this time, nor did we play. He would seek the throne of God, cry before God, lay on our floor before God, call out to God, and plead God’s mercy over his house, wife, boys, family, and friends. All the while we were learning how to call on the One True God through this witness that our dad was giving us. It made us feel special that we had our very own “men’s prayer room” and we loved it. This was something he started with us before I can remember. We also had family prayer in our living room, where both of my parents, and of course the three of us, would seek the face God. At the age of six I began to understand what God had done for me, and at the age of seven I understood what it meant to have sin in my life, and that being the son of a man, I was born with a sinful nature. The last night of Louisiana camp meeting in 1985, I made my way to the altar and began to repent of my sins. Crying my eyes out and calling on God Almighty, I was filled with the Holy Ghost and began to speak in another tongue. I was baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ the following Sunday at my home church in Newellton, La. I was seven years old at the time.
      You see, I am blessed above all men. I was raised in a home where Truth was taught on a daily basis. Most people have no understanding of what sin truly means. Nor do they understand the separation from God that they must endure until such a time as they find faith. True faith will cause men to be obedient to God’s Word which tells us to repent, be baptized in His name, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. It is sad to say that many people were only raised with church on Sunday, while many others were raised with church only on Easter or Christmas. I have heard many people jokingly say, “I’m a sinner,” and they don’t truly understand what they are saying. Otherwise, it would not be a joking matter to them. You cannot repent of your sins, if you are not aware that you are a sinner. How can you submit to God and have your sins remitted, if you have no knowledge that you are sinner? I can pray that God will forgive you, but the Word says to “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” My prayers do not save you, that is God’s work. But God will not force His way into our lives, we must invite Him.
      Revelation 3:19-21 “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
      Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
      Baptism is part of God’s plan for every man, we take it on ourselves through obedience to His Word. I dedicated my children to God when they were born, promising Him that I would raise them in the fear of the Lord, teach them His Word, and be an example of how to live a life that is pleasing to God. Children were dedicated, by their parents, to the work of God in the Bible as well. However, repentance and baptism are issues we must take upon ourselves. They are to do with our own salvation, which can not be forced upon anyone.
      Finally, the Bible does tell us that His Word is Truth (John 17:17), and that the heart is deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9), that is why I use “Sola Scriptura”, because we know we can use and trust His Word, even when we can not trust our own hearts.

      In His Peace,
      Steve in SC

    • @ JoAnn,
      I want to address the last part of your comment where you reference 1 Timothy.

      1 Timothy 3:15  But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

      Notice the end of the verse as stated in the King James Bible ( the only one I recognize as authoritative). It reads; “…The pillar and ground of the truth.”
      A pillar holds something up. The ground is where it rests.
      The Bible teaches that Christ and Christ alone is the foundation of truth. The church is where that truth rests and is held up as a light to a dark world.

      • Jim: You have no argument with me. Christ is the “Church”, the foundation of truth and his truths are taught through the Church, the piller and foundation of truth. In Jn 21:25, John says there are still many other things that Jesus did, yet if they were written about in detail, I doubt there would be room enough in the entire world to hold the books to record them. Therefore, many things were taught by Tradition, the preaching and writings of the Apostles. The Apostles handed on those teachings,even on down to the present day. That is why the Catholic Church is the Apostolic Church. Hence, ALL those teachings that did not make it into the Bible are still taught to this day by the Catholic Church in addition to the Bible. So there are many truths out here that people have not been taught. There is nothing in the Bible that is contrary to Catholic teaching and there is nothing in Catholic teaching that is contrary to the Bible. The Catholic Church teaches from the Bible AND Traditions. That’s why 1 Timothy 3:15 is very important. Didn’t Paul emphasize holding fast to the Traditions and teachings by “mouth” AND writings? So those teachings by “mouth” are taught through the Catholic Church. Digging into the very early “fathers of the Church” and early Church “history” is amazing. God bless.

  31. Enjoy your teachings about Bible Prochecy on TBN. My wife and I enjoy your program. We are both Water Baptizied in that wonderful Name of Jesus and filled with His Spirit. Keep at the good work. God Bless!

  32. Isn’t it odd that if Baptists and evangelicals are correct that their “born again experience” is the true and ONLY means of salvation, the term “born again” is only mentioned three times in the King James Bible? If “making a decision for Christ” is the only means of salvation, why doesn’t God mention it more often in his Word? Why only THREE times? Isn’t that REALLY, REALLY odd?

    Why is it that the Apostle Paul, the author of much of the New Testament, NEVER uses this term? Why is this term never used in the Book of Acts to describe the many mentioned Christian conversions? Why is this term only used by Jesus in a late night conversation with Nicodemus, and by Peter once in just one letter to Christians in Asia Minor?

    If you attend a Baptist/evangelical worship service what will you hear? You will hear this: “You must be born again: you must make a decision for Christ. You must ask Jesus into your heart. You must pray to God and ask him to forgive you of your sins, come into your heart, and be your Lord and Savior (the Sinner’s Prayer). You must be an older child or adult who has the mental capacity to make a decision to believe, to make a decision to repent, and to make a decision to ask Jesus into your heart.”

    It is very strange, however, that other than “you must be born again” none of this terminology is anywhere to be found in the Bible! Why do Baptists and evangelicals use this non-biblical terminology when discussing salvation?

    Maybe “accepting Christ into your heart” is NOT what being born again really means. Maybe…making a “decision” for Christ is NOT how God saves sinners!

    Gary
    Luther, Baptists, and Evangelicals

  33. I thank God for your ministry and pray for your protection and continued guidance of the Holy Spirit.

  34. Very nice, I like that you put the action acquainted with the belief and our guarantee in there as well. Very Nice.

  35. I AM A 43 YEAR OLD ‘BORN AGAIN’ CHRISTIAN. I’VE LIVED A WONDERFUL LIFE AND FELLOWSHIP WITH MY LORD!! I DO NOT COMMENT TO CONTRADICT, I WATCH END TIME AND IRVIN BAXTER OFTEN AND ENJOY BOTH HE AND HIS PROGRAMS. I WAS SAVED EARLY ONE MORNING IN 1970 FOLLOWING A NIGHT OF MY DEEPEST DISTRESS EVER. I SAT ON MY COUCH, CALLING OUT FOR THE LORD TO COME INTO MY HEART AND TAKE OVER MY LIFE, THAT I NEEDED HIM TO FORGIVE ME AND TO TAKE OVER MY LIFE. I CLOSED MY EYES, LAID MY HEAD BACK ABND ‘FELT’ THE HOLY SPIRIT SLOWLY, BEAUTIFULLY, WARMLY ENTER MY BODY BEGINNIING WITH MY FEET THEN SLOWLY CLIMB UPWARD, INTO EACH ARM, THEN INTO MY HEAD. I WAS NEVER THE SAME!! DAYS AFTERWARDS, I WAS OUTSIDE AND GOD SPOKE TO ME SAYING, ‘YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS’!! I WAS BAPTISED 2 YEARS LATER IN A LAKE. I ‘KNOW’ WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME INTO MY BODY, MY ENTIRE LIFE CHANGED FROM THE MOMENT I STOOD UP!! YOUR COMMENT? THANK YOU!!

    • Wow, I am amazed right now. I also am Cindy Fox and 43 years old. I didn’t get saved until September of 1999. Sorry, to see my name and age just kind of odd. Praise God you are a sister in Christ.

    • Hi Cindy,

      I’m sure you were wanting a reply from EndTime, but I just read your post and wanted to reply to you about my experience.
      Being in sin, we don’t realize the burden we are carrying. The weight that is there, has been there since we came into the world. David said, “Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.” Our lives tend to spiral out of control, everything seems to go wrong, life in general feels as if it is against us. The gross feeling of that weight on us, is the weight of sin on our souls. We learn in Romans that “the wages of sin is death” and having death looming over you spiritually is heavy. Nothing physical in the world can you weigh you down quite like death, or death looming over your shoulders. How much more does spiritual death weigh down on each and everyone of us? Physical death is a part of life since Adam became a partaker of Eve’s sin. Spiritual death is the penalty for sin. We were not created to sin, but to live with Him and for Him. While in sin, we are separated from Him. It is through repentance that we find the path to salvation. Imagine, if you would, the weight on the hearts and minds of those responsible for the death on the cross of Jesus Christ. Imagine the conviction they felt as Peter preached to them (Acts2), making known to all what they had done. Could you imagine the guilt you would feel had you been one of those to cry out, “Crucify Him! Crucify Him!” only to find out that He had come to “seek and to save that which was lost.” Then realizing that you, Cindy, were one of those He had come to save. What do you do at this point? What could you possibly do at this point? I have crucified the Savior, now how do I find salvation? That is the question they were asking when they said, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?” Peter gave them the direct answer that their question required. “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
      All who truly repent from the heart feel a great feeling of ease, joy, and maybe even warmth as He begins to make them ready for His Spirit to dwell in them.
      As vivid as you can recall the feeling you had when you repented, would you stop at that if you knew He had more for you still? Peter preached what he knew to be true after his time as a student of Jesus. All of those in the upper room, the other Jews on the day of Pentecost (those Peter preached to), the conversion experiences in Samaria and that of the Gentiles experienced the same thing in relation to salvation. Peter said that “The promise was to…as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
      The long awaited promise was not repentance. Repentance was available before the day of Pentecost, but the infilling of the Holy Ghost which started on the day OF Pentecost was something more that God had, and still has, in store for them and us. John the baptist preached repentance if you recall, but also Israel was called to repent of, or to turn from, their wicked ways many times before Jesus was born. If repentance was available before this time, then repentance was not the “promise” they had been waiting on. Jesus said (John 7:38) “He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.” John clarified what this meant when he penned (39) “(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)” From this reading, the promise Jesus spoke about was not yet available, even though repentance was readily available at that time.
      I am not making light of or rejecting your experience, I am doing exactly the opposite. You have experienced something in true repentance that relatively few have, or ever will. I say that according to what I see in Scripture, because “hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure.” Jesus is the only way to salvation for us, and most of the world today does not believe in Him, many doubting He ever existed. If half of the world were saved, that would still be over 3.5 Billion lost in just our time. However, repentance is the first step. “Repent, and be baptized…in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Peter lays it plain, Paul confirms in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 that he has preached what Peter preached in Acts 2. The messages are the same, and His Word does not change.

  36. About the article. Let’s not argeu with THE WORD of GOD. There is a message for the Pastor in 2 Tim:4v2 to 5. God bless all of you.

    • Hi Nancy,
      I am going to give some Scripture for you if that is ok. Jesus’ words to Nicodemus.
      John 3:1-8 (1)There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:(2) The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.(3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.(4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?(5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.(6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.(7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.(8) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

      According to Jesus, who was the first to use the term, “born again”, you must be born of the water & the Spirit to be born again. Receiving the Holy Spirit is part of being born again. That is how we are “born of the Spirit” as Jesus mentioned.
      John 7:37-39 (37) In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.(38) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.(39) (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
      Peter preached the original message of salvation on the day of Pentecost. Acts 2 records the entire event, while Acts 2:37-40 gives the account of sinners asking what they must do to be saved & Peter’s response. Or, more directly, Acts 2:38. Paul also preaches this message to sinners as he clearly says in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
      Repentance = death, baptism in Jesus name = burial, receiving the Holy Ghost = resurrection.

      Why should we have the Holy Spirit? Jesus said we MUST be born again, or we can not see or enter the kingdom of Heaven.
      Are we born again if we don’t have it? To be born again is to repent, be baptized in Jesus name, and to receive the Holy Spirit. Romans 8:9 “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, IF so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”

  37. I repented of my sins and was truly sorry. I was baptized by immersion. I am 70 years old and in poor health. I do not feel any different than I did before. I still feel alone and homesick. I yearn for the touch of God. I pray and pray and nothing happens. I must have committed some sin that God won’t forgive. How do I find the Holy Spirit?

    • You really can’t base your salvation on feeling. Believing with all you are and have is what He is looking for, trust in God and let Him grow your Faith daily. He is faithful.

    • Hello BJ,

      1 Peter 5:7-8 (7)Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. (8)Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

      I was taught as a young boy that the devil’s greatest lies involve convincing us that God is not real, or that we are not saved. Believe me brother, he works day and night to do just that.
      Next time you pray and that thought comes to your mind, rebuke that thought in Jesus name. Do not stop praying, and don’t be afraid. Believe in your heart and know in your mind that He has forgiven you because He said He would. God is the Just One and the only Wise Judge. He is Faithful & True.
      Don’t hold back from God, because He will not hold back His promise from you. We love you bro. BJ, & we will be praying with you.

    • Well,brother from what I”ve been through its not your sin that is keeping your prayer from beening answered,sometimes god does not answer our prayers.God works on his own time and not ours,but keep your faith in him,because if you keep praying to him and having faith in him and working in his behalf,by spreading his good news to any one that will listen to you your reward is eternal life in his new kingdom.Please brother don`t give up if you need any help plz write me. Finding the holy spirit is a every day deal, morning and night thanking him and reading your bible,God tests his people every day do the steps I’am telling you and you will see he never fails

    • There is NO sin too great that God will not forgive if one truly repents. I will pray for you that you will find peace and joy knowing that God loves you. Read your Bible often and pray to the Holy Spirit that He will give you understanding and comfort. I read the Psalms a lot because I can always find something there that will fit each circumstance that I happen to be going through at the time. I hope you can find as much comfort there as I have. God bless.

    • If you have truly repented then you must believe that God has forgiven you because He promised that in His word. If you are praying for something just endure. Remember that the woman had to weary the unjust judge to death before he responded to her request. Sometimes we just have to continually go before God until He answers. Keep believing and stay faithful. Luke 11:13 teaches us that we have to simply ask for the Holy Spirit. If you continue to seek, God’s word promises you that you will find. God bless.

  38. Every believer should be baptized with water as the example was set my Jesus with his cousin John. I think it now too much to be immersed in water. On the other hand there are instances especially in Muslim countries where baptism is not a practicality The Lord will have mercy and understanding that baptism was not practical. I believe to love one as one loves self is the greater teaching that Jesus tries to impart to every one he touched while he was alive and also thru his apostles and disciples. That is the greatest among you is the bond slave to all.

  39. According to the manuscripts, Born again means born from above; which means the actual flesh age being born of woman.

    • Nicodemus actually asked if that is what Jesus meant and Jesus further explained that being born again was being born of water and the Spirit. Jesus did not teach that this was physical birth.

  40. The real question should be is why a bride doesn’t want to take on her husbands name, as for me I want nothing to do with a no name religion!

  41. One must be baptized in THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST as Peter put it in Acts chapter 2. it needs the revelation of God Himself to understand the Bible.

  42. I have obeyed the gospel of JESUS CHRIST. By HIS mercy and love HE saved me. PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME. The thing that bothers me is when people say they have been born again but refuse to be baptized because they do not feel it is needed at all. If the WORD OF GOD tells us we need to be baptized, then who are we to reject it?
    It is like a child who tells his parents, “I believe you are my parents and I enjoy all the benefits that I have as your child. You take care me and see that I have food and clothing and all the necessities of life and you even give me nice things that I don’t “need” sometimes just because you love me.” But I am not going to do everything you tell me to do, only the things that I feel are important. It doesn’t really matter what you say.”
    This is how I see people who refuse to be baptized and say that because they believed on the LORD JESUS CHRIST they were saved and they don’t have to do anything else. Even though the WORD OF GOD is very plain about baptism. GOD bless all!

  43. In Romans it speaks about Abraham having been justified by faith before circumcision. In the book of Acts when they’re arguing about whether or not theGentiles should be circumcised or not, they ended the dispute with what laws they should follow. They were, not to eat anything that has been offered to idols. They should not eat any meat of any animal that has been strangled or that still has blood in it. They must also not commit any terrible sexual sins. Acts 15:19-20They never said anything about being baptized. They baptized as part in the Old Testament. Jesus came to fulfill the law. I have the baptism of the holy spirit. The Lord speaks to me. I have tongues, and I’m starting to move in the Spirit. If it was required to be baptized to have your sins washed away, then why did Jesus get baptized in the first place?

    • Josh said, “In the book of Acts when they’re arguing about whether or not theGentiles should be circumcised or not, they ended the dispute with what laws they should follow. They were, not to eat anything that has been offered to idols. They should not eat any meat of any animal that has been strangled or that still has blood in it. They must also not commit any terrible sexual sins. Acts 15:19-20They never said anything about being baptized.”
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      Josh,

      According to Acts 15:1, these “believers” would have already been baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost. This debate concerned what “additional” requirements the gentiles would endure in order to please God and stay in fellowship with Jewish brethren.

      And yes, Abraham was justified by faith, but he also believed God and rigteousness was impted. And when the law was given and the knowledge of God’s righteousness was set in stone, Moses believed God, by faith, and did his best to obey and teah the law to the Children of Israel. If we obey the New Covenant, by faith, and believe God, we too will be justified by faith and saved by grace.

      Jesus was baptised as an example to us and to fulfill all righteousness. Peter commanded baptism and this practice is followed throughout the New Testament, the early church, and in all Bible believing churches today. What doth hinder you from being baptized? There is much water. Why not obey Peter’s message and the example of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?

    • I think JESUS got baptized to show the people that they should do as he had done and it pleased the FATHER for him to do so. I think it was as an example…

    • Jesus’ was to mark the acceptance of His ministry. It was an example to us. Baptism for the remission of sins is done in the name of Jesus. Baptism could not remit sins until after the death of Jesus Christ.

      In Acts 10:44-46 Peter preached to Gentiles and they received the Holy Ghost. In verse 48 Peter still commanded them to be baptized. Peter understood the importance of baptism. God bless.

    • In John 17:3 When Jesus is praying to the Father, he states, ” This is eternal life to know you, the only true God, and to know Jesus Christ, the one you sent.” He never says anything about being baptized. He had to do everything the law required so we wouldn’t be slaves to this, and thus creating different opinions in scripture. Is not going out and getting baptized and act or a work? Just like the Lord’s Supper, we’re all doing it for his name’s sake. But that doesn’t give us eternal life.

      • We cannot only take one scripture to explain salvation. Jesus taught in John 3:3-7 that we need to be born again of water and of the Spirit to enter into the kingdom of God. The consistent theme of salvation is repentance, baptism, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. This mirrors the gospel which is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. We have to obey this. We obey the burial by baptism in Colossians 2:12 and Romans 6:4. Mark 16:16 says we must believe and be baptized. 1 Peter 3:21 says baptism saves us. Finally Titus 3:5 shows us that God saves us according to His mercy by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost. God saves us that way. Those are His works that we accept, not our own works. If you have other questions please email us at endtime@endtime.com. God bless.

  44. how do you know you’ve received the Holy Ghost after repenting and being baptised when i can not speak in tongues like Simon had not received the Holy Ghost?

    • I can only speak for myself but I was baptized last Sunday and I FELT the holy spirit! I mean I actually felt it inside me and still do.it changed me.it really did. all the anger and bitterness I was carrying around was washed away. I have changed to the point of people noticing it.I used to be the kind of person that wasn’t too fond of shaking people’s hands or saying hi. when the spirit came into me and I felt the love of Jesus I COULDN’T contain myself or the joy I felt!!I jumped on the stage and hugged brother John (who baptized me) I even grabbed Brother Baxter and hugged him!! EVERY DAY I praise Jesus!I thank him for saving me and changing me!! praise his holy name!! Jesus is Lord!

    • You should be baptized in the name of Jesus, not Father, Son, & Holy Spirit. If you repented and were baptized in Jesus’ name, you will receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit for it’s a promise to you.

      • tongues is just one of the signs, “though we have tongues and not love we are as clanging symbols. Do not be deceived, we should all be Baptized if we are true believers. anyone who tells you differently is not sent by God

  45. I am a born again son of God who was born not of the will of flesh or the will of man, but of God. I received Christ in county jail through a reserve deputy who ministered the gospel to me. I felt the Holy Ghost and received him the minute I knelt down to confess my sins and ask forgiveness and Jesus to come into my life. After confessing he baptized me in the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost. I had a flash go off in my mind while praying and in an instant saw and felt as if all the stars in the heavens above rushed through my body and I came up saying hallelujah and praise Jesus. I was walking on air and born again. I tell you this because there was no water in that jail cell for me to be dunked in and yet I received the gift of the Holy Ghost. So I must dissent on the belief you must be dunked in water. I am born again with the in dwelling of the Holy Ghost and no man on this earth will tell me otherwise. Also wanted to point out the thief on the cross with Jesus who accepted him. He wasn’t dunked in water and Jesus told him today ye shall be with me in paradise. I believe in one Lord one faith one baptism (in the Holy Ghost) and One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. I also believe that immersion in water is important and a public confession of the new life you have received but is not necessary to be born again and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. And I confess Jesus Christ has come in the flesh with my mouth and spirit. For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, this is the spirit of the anti-Christ which you heard was coming and is now already in the world. I enjoy these discussions and hope that we all can grow into the head which is Christ through them. God bless and take care,

    A true son of God and brother of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
    Donald D. Meyers

    • Cornelius was baptized by the Holy Spirit and then Peter gave orders for them to be baptized in water Acts 10:44-48. There no reason to not be water baptized and many reasons and commands to be water baptized. We are to obey the Gospel, not our feelings or thoughts. Why not be water baptized? Also, the issue of the thief on the cross is addressed above right before the conclusion of this article.

    • Greetings in love,

      In Acts16 :33, it made reference to the keeper of the jail being baptized the same hour of the night. It was Paul, Silas and the keeper present there. Notice that it was also in the night. Also, there are other accounts (for example, Acts 8- with the Ethiopian) where there was only the preacher and the person being baptized present at the baptism. In these last two instances, the baptism was conducted without a crowd. That shows that the process of baptism is much more than a public declaration. The Bible teaches in 1 Peter that baptism is apart of the salvation process. Also, the thief on the cross was still in the Old Testament dispensation. The blood of Jesus was not shed as yet. Therefore once Jesus forgave his sins it was sufficient. However, once the New Testament dispensation began, they were all instructed to obey Acts 2:38. Hope this helps in some way. Sincere regards

    • The Bible tells us the plan of being born again in Acts 2:38 and 1 Corinthians 15. We must repent of our sins; to turn away from our will and follow after God. Be baptized, just as Jesus, Paul and Peter commanded. And receive the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking with other tongues. God bless.

  46. I’m so blessed…so glad I did it the BIBLE way repented of my sins was baptised in JESUS Name,filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues AS THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD GIVE’S THE UTTERENCE…Iiving a Holy life ….by example of his righteousness for 25+ years, with his spirit living inside of me…. believing his Word,his word is TRUTH.. keeping busy…about his business, occuping until he come . So thankful for your teaching…God’s blessing’s be continually with you in JESUS Name.

    • I believe the gosple of Jesus Christ, though I was not there ,that he was born of a virgin,Was crucified on a cross (but) on the 3rd day arose again… an he’s alive forevermore. I believe he came to died for me, and for as many as will hear, believe and practice his teaching’s. He is the perfect example of how we are to live an love one another.. He changed me inside-and-out….the way I think,act,the things I do and say ,by helping me not to be a forgetgul hearer,but with the help of the Holy Ghost to be a do’er of his word . He is transforming me daily making me the new creature he wants me to be,by living inside of me giving me direction. I have a new home ,a New Master,who said he’d never leave me but,would lead and guide me into all truth, I’m a living witness of his goodness and his Mercy and am waiting and watching for his soon return.

  47. Acts 2:38: These Jews were cut to the heart by the sermon that Peter preached, and they called upon Peter and the other apostles to tell them what they had to do to get right with God. Peter then told them to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins. Many battles have been fought among Christians over this verse.
    The main point of contention is not repentance. Most will not deny that repentance is a part of receiving salvation (see note 1 at Matthew 3:2 and note 3 at Luke 15:18). The real argument is over water baptism. Even more specifically, the argument is, is water baptism a requirement for salvation or just an evidence of it?
    Being baptized in water is a command of Jesus and should be obeyed as any other command He gave, but putting our faith in water baptism as a means of salvation is an offense to Christ and what He has done for us. It’s saying that Jesus didn’t pay it all; there is also a price that we must pay in order to be saved.
    Those who preach water baptism as necessary in order to obtain salvation invariably also preach other actions of holiness that we must do to be saved; they have accepted the belief that faith in what Christ has done is not enough. They believe we must do certain things to be saved, and they cite this verse and water baptism as an example. If people believe that, the burden of salvation shifts from Jesus to man.
    The answer to this problem is found in this verse in the little word “for.” The Greek word that was translated “for” in this verse is “EIS,” and it can mean because of, as a result of, and since or can also mean so as to obtain.
    As explained in note 9 at Mark 16:16, there are two examples of different groups of people being born again before they were baptized in water; therefore, water baptism cannot be a requirement in order to obtain salvation. So it must be an action that comes because of, as a result of, or since the remission of sins. It is an act of obedience that only a person who is already born again can perform (Acts 8:36-37).
    Water baptism is an outward show of an inward change. It has great benefit as an action that resists the devil and as a witness that identifies us as one with Christ, but it cannot save (see note 55 at Matthew 7:21 and note 21 at Matthew 23:26).Andrew Wommack’s Living Commentary.

    • The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace through faith. Faith is only valid when coupled with obedience. Faith and obedience are inseparable. So through our obedience of God’s word, we express our faith in God’s word. This is not an indication that we take salvation into our own hands. When we obey the word, we exercise our faith. The Bible teaches that baptism is necessary and that it saves us. 1 Peter 3:21 tells us this plainly. We know that Acts 2:38 means what exactly what it says when it states, baptism in the name of Jesus is for the remission of sins. Acts 22:16 shows that baptism washes away our sins just as Acts 2:38 says it does. So again it is important for us to obey the word of God. Hebrews 5:9 says that Jesus is the author of eternal salvation to those that obey Him. So we understand this to mean if we do not obey God and His word, then He is not the author of our salvation. 2 Thessalonians 1:8 also teaches that God will take vengeance on them that obey not the Gospel. So it is clear that obedience to the word of God is necessary for salvation. This includes repentance, baptism in the name of Jesus, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. God bless.

  48. Dear Pastor ,

    As a child, I was baptized with holy water and later in life as i went to join my husbands church, I again went thru classes but it has been some time and I am not sure if I am saved. My heart belongs to Jesus Christ. I called on the Billy Graham one night and asked again for him to come into my life and repented my sins, but, must we again be immersed in water? I have always talked to the lord and have always believed that he died for my sins. I believe he has risen! I am just confused if I must be immersed in water again in order to be saved.. Thank You Pastor I love your show!!!

  49. Dear Pastor,
    Thank you very much!
    I have two little children under 7 years old and one new born, if Jesus Christ come back tonight, will they will be saved?
    Thank you Pastor!

    • God is a righteous judge. He will not condemn a child who can not fully conceive the plan of salvation that He, God, laid down. It is our belief that they will be under the age of accountability and will take care of them.

  50. Dear Pastor,
    How about the children, infants regard to the three steps of being born again repent-immersion in water- receive the Holy Ghost?
    Thank you Pastor!

    • They do not have the mental capacity to be born again. They cannot make the conscience decision to follow after Christ. But there will come a day when they reach an age of accountability. Then they will have to make the choice to follow Christ and be saved. God bless.

  51. I received my salvation by believing in Jesus Christ as my Savior, by repenting with my mouth that I was a sinner and by asking Jesus Christ to become Lord of my life. All of this is word for word in The Holy Bible which is God’s Word and it is based upon the Gift of Salvation that Jesus Christ offered to each of us a by His ultimate sacrifice….His Blood, Death, Burial and Resurrection on Calvary. Therefore, being Born Again is a Gift of Unconditional Love and Boundless Mercy to Save us from Hell. And a Gift cannot be earned, so acceptance of this Precious Gift is our choice as sinful man. I believe that many “Believers” and “Non-Believers” are being mislead by the “Religion” view point that our salvation can be earned and that it can be lost. This is simply not true. Once you have Truly been Born Again, you Can Not become “Un-Born Again”. In Romans 6: 8-11 it states:
    “Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

    9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
    10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

    11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    I also was baptized in Believers Baptism by full submersion as commanded in scripture. And finally I believe that once we are Born Again and have been Baptized, we are a new creation unto Him, therefore we will want to study God’s word, pray without ceasing, serve the church and others, tithe by obedience and share unto the world His message of Salvation. However, I will obey because of His Commandments, not because I am afraid of loosing my Salvation by my good deeds, which will always “come short of the Glory of God”

  52. I have to say this. I think I know where is the problem in the article. We get born again instantly and our spirit is revived. It is a moment, it comes right after we realize we need to ask Him to forgive our sins and do it with an honest prayer. Then according to the Word we need to work out our salvation and water baptism is a part of this vital task. Amen. But we do not need to work out the spiritual birth for it’s in place already. Birth from above and salvation happen always at the same time,afterwards salvation goes on alone in our lives. Think about it.

  53. I have a few questions, all very serious. Is birth from above a moment or a process? According to your teaching of salvation can a person get saved (born again) without being baptized in water? Would be interesting to hear: yes or no, please. And if no, then all the grace of God does not work for nobody unless they do participate in water immersion. Then if a dying person repents and then in 3 minutes dies without being baptized, you can say that he was not saved? Or he was?
    I think what Peter meant by ” repent and get baptized for the remission of sins” it is exactly what you said about plan of how to grow and get perfect eventually in your walk with God. But in order to get born again you do not need to start walking next second. Each case is different, I know that. But grace and blood can not be put on hold by the absence of symbolic act of an individual’s burial with Christ. Salvation is simple and unique. Spiritual growth is not simple at all. Please, give me clear answers to my questions.

    • These are some wonderful questions, let me first start off with this. Being Baptized does NOT send you to Heaven, ye MUST be Born Again. I know you can go to Reference to that in John 3:3,5,7. Also in that Passage you will find that it talks about being Born of Water and of the Spirit. When a lot of People read that Passage they take as it being a Water Baptism, but everyone fails to read the very next Scripture. The verse is John 3:5-6 Jesus answered, verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a Man be Born of Water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of GOD. Highlight: That which is born of the Flesh is Flesh; and that which is Born of the Spirit is Spirit (KJV).
      A lot of People think that ye must be Baptized and that is what Saves a Person. When I got Saved, I didn’t get Baptized for another Month. If I would have Died before then, I would have went to Glory. The way you get Saved is, ye will Hear the Word of GOD from a GOD Called Preacher, the Spirit will Prick your Heart and you will either grow fonder of push away from that Spirit, and then ye will Repent until GOD has Accepted the Repent and you will know a shadow of dought that ye are Born Again. GOD wants you to know, Jesus stated in John Chapter 3 that ye MUST know that ye know.

      • Salvation takes more than just belief. James even speaks of this. Belief must be coupled with obedience. John 3, and Acts 2:38 are in complete harmony on the process of salvation. It takes repentance, baptism, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost to complete the free gift of salvation. As for baptism saving you, the Bible says in 1 Peter 3:21 that baptism saves us. It is part of the born again process. God Bless.

  54. So… if I’ve believed, repented, been baptised, have works in evidence, am open to speaking in tounges and have asked for such… but have not yet spoken in tounges – what’s the catch???

    • There are times when the Holy Ghost does not come as quickly as we like. The main thing is to keep praying and seeking, and when you feel the Holy Ghost begin to overshadow let it take control. Get yourself out of the way. God bless.

  55. I’ve read several comments about it being necessary to be rebaptised in Jesus’ name, but what about Matthew 28.16 where Jesus himself told the Apostles to go forth and baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy S

    • In Matthew 28:19, Jesus tells us to baptize in the name(singular) of the Father, the Song, and the Holy Ghost. In order to baptize correctly, you have to know what that single name is.

  56. Hi, I need some guidance. I am a Christian since April, 2012. Going to church weekly and doing bible study daily. I do want to be saved and born again but per definition here, I am not sure that I am. I can’t tell if holy spirit has dwelling in me and I am definitely can’t speak tongues. Any suggestion how to make progress and know I am really saved?

    • Linda, I can only tell you from my personal experience. I was raised in a Baptist church, “joined the church”(by praying a prayer of belief and repentance, and being baptized) when I was sixteen. HOWEVER, God did not convict me of my sin at that time. I really felt no different than I had ever felt, and continued to serve in the church for a short time. It was not until 20 years later, at a time of crisis in my life, that I turned to the Bible for guidance, and was convicted of my sin. It was an extraordinary thing…God revealed my sin to me, and the conviction, shame, and repentance I felt drove me to the ground, face-down, and even that wasn’t as low as I wanted to be before God! To truly repent, we must first know what we are repenting of, and that is only shown to us by God’s grace and supernatural work in our mind and spirit. It is a mysterious thing, the most precious gift, and it is the most liberating experience you will ever have…once Jesus sets you free, you are free indeed. All I can tell you is that when this happened to me, I could not bow low enough before Him, and I could not stop asking for His forgiveness…until He showed me that He had forgiven me the first time I asked Him, and that now I must ACCEPT that forgiveness.
      I never really understood what the term “being saved” meant until I was born again. It means we are saved from ourselves…our sinful nature that is the curse of this world. When we understand this, our eyes are opened to what Jesus did for us on the cross, the enormous debt He paid for us, but also, the infinite, awesome, love our Father has for us, that He would do this for us so we can be reconciled to Him. This produced a desire in me to be reconciled to everyone I had ever wronged, to cleanse my spirit, to make right…and it became impossible for me to be dishonest with people..that spirit cannot co-exist with the Holy Spirit in us. It also produced a love for people, an empathy for others I had never felt, as well as a total loss of selfishness…it wasn’t about “me” anymore. I did not speak in tongues, I dreamt in tongues!
      I do not know if this is common to all who are born again; I can only tell you that for me, there was never any question. It was the most intense, passionate, liberating experience of my life. There was never any doubt. If you are unsure, I would only advise you to seek Him through prayer, earnestly, as you have never sought any other thing in your life. One of the most beautiful scriptures is Revelation 3:20 in which Jesus said “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock:if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” If you open that door, and let Him in, He will lay hold to your heart, and you will never be the same again! It is truly a matter of life or death. I pray you choose Life. God Bless.

  57. To be born again is a gift and it begins upon a soul repenting. To be born again is to become a new creation in the Holy Spirit. One will die to the world and die to the old self. One begins to live a new life in Christ. In living the Gospel life by the grace of God we begin to ackowledge more the things concerning God. The things of above and the eternal life that begins right here on Earth in Christ. Conversion comes from the Holy Spirit but we are called to have a repentant and contrite heart. The new life we are called to live is more of the spiritual life that begins here and now after your conversion. No matter what faith denomination many are called and few are chosen. Only but a few follow Christ in obedience offering self and giving all glory to God in all that we do in Christ, “not I but Christ”…. Amazing grace hits our lives! Soon you will ackowledge that there is no other life joy and happiness without our Lord and Master, Savior of the world……..

  58. TO BE BORN AGAIN MEANS Comes from the bible BORN FROM ABOVE. This means when u came from heaven thru the waters then u can return back to heaven and some did not choose this and are the falling angles and they cant return they are already sentenced to the lake of fire with satin.

  59. I believe “Born Again” means that one receives “Baptism of the Holy Spirit.” It is a gift (not earned) where one is “FILLED” withthe Holy Spirit, as evidenced by speaking in tongues.I further believe that before one can receive this gift, one must repent of all sins, be water baptized, be humble and love the Lord with one’s heart, mind and soul….love him more than anything and everyone, and pray to be filled (annointed with His Holy Spirit.

  60. I want to put my two cents in concerning some things in the article that are most likely an error. Baptism is an act of obeying God and is a picture of the death, burial and Resurrection of Jesus. From what i was taught in a Fundamentalist Church. Baptism is not part of being saved believing with all of your heart about Jesus is what brings Salvation to the individual soul. If you do get Baptized by Immersion, your being obedient to God, but it is your believing in your heart is what gives you true salvation!

  61. I was raised a baptist. I was baptized in the baptist church. One day I went to a bible study where I worked. The girl asked me a question “Are you filled with the Holy Ghost” I said what do you mean. I knew I was saved, and I had been baptized, but she asked me if I was filled with the Holy Ghost. Then when she knew I didn’t understand, she asked if I would like to be filled with God’s power. I said yes and she laid hands on me and I felt the power of God come on me and I felt different on the inside of me. Two weeks later I was driving to the lake and I was singing to the Lord, then all of a sudden I began to speak in tongues. So, I got born again, water baptized, then God gave me the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues.

  62. we need to wake up = all of us – the upc is a sleeping giant = you will not hear well done unless you deny yourself and pick up His Cross – you must REPENT after you are born again and stay REPENTED – God is Holy and we must be HOLY – wake up – wake up – wake up – its later than you think UPC – REPENT and GET RIGHT – live the Life – Witness and Live Holy at all cost

  63. I was looking into the Mormon`s books to see if there is more out there that I can grasp. But then I got to a place where it said this is how you must baptize and no disputations ! First God knows man better than we know our selves, he would not say that ! This is what he said (3NEPHI 11:25 Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father,and of the Son ,and of the Holy Ghost.) Now even I know ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other : for there is none other name under heaven given among, whereby we must be saved .So I`m still looking because I know I`m far from be done or of being Christ like if you get meaning. It is a very good paper!

    • yes when I was a teenager I read the paln of salvation in the book of mormon.. But I knew that the mormons did not practice it as they follow more trinity beleifs and also the elders and literature share that in their beleif that Jesus was merely the brother of lucifer and God jsut happened to choose Jesus over lucifer to the the savior. hmm. and that Joseph smith/ founder was under federal inditement when he jumped to his death out of a courtroom window chanting the masonic creed. ( not my kind of guy) and that I kept researching and found out the book of mormon was disputed in the New york Courts as a stolen manuscript of a novel by William Spaulding, who was Hiram smiths ( Joseph smiths brother) employer. that they claim the book of mormon was stolen by Hiram, when he suddenly quit this job as an apprentice printer in NYC. the Jesus of the real bible is the “word become flesh” the God of heaven robed in flesh.. the other night I read Duet 6, and it declares.. there is no other GOd. in Isaiah 9 it declares that the savior/ child was to be called the wonderful counselor and mighty God. that is why its important to be baptized in his name. amen! But simply amazing that the message was implanted in this book which you mention

      • I was also very surprised many years ago when I wa finally able to get an authentic version of the original Book of Mormon. It is amazingly differnt from the new modified versions, and contains many very troubling statements in there.The original is always key, because if the “prophet” is a true, Godly prophet, then his words must be scrutinized according to the Bible. if they don’t lineup, it is not the Blble that you toss out, but the prophet. Anyone who is sincere and still in Mormonism MUST get the original version of what this man said- once you read his words, you will clearly see he was never inspired from above, and therefore what flows from there will contain enough spiritual deception to miss true salvation- too high a price not to check!

  64. i have the Acts 2:38 experience which changed my life drastically 28 yrs ago and is still alive in my soul today. I’m thankful to know that although i don’t watch tv, your ministry is holding to this great truth and getting it out to countless people.

  65. I agree with Steve, this is awesome. I have been following you on cable regarding End Time Events. I had no idea you believed in baptism according to Acts 2:38. What a refreshing thought. I will be reading more and seeing how I can support you. Keep up the good work.

  66. Awesome article Bro. Baxtor and so glad you posted this. Reference to Acts 2:38 should be in your Salvation section in the ‘What We Believe’ area. Obey Acts 2:38 – it’s not a religious thing, it’s a Scriptural thing.

  67. Another point that might be added to the paragraph on the thief on the cross is where Christ tells the thief that “this day thou shalt be with me in paradise”. Paradise is not heaven where Christ is seated on the right hand of God. Jesus was “three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”. “When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive”, “Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens”. He said to Mary, “touch me not for I have not yet ascended to the father”. It is clear that the thief died under the old law and went to the same place that everyone else went as Lazarus was in “Abraham’s bosom”.
    Concerning the topic of “works”, during someone’s ministry on earth if that person baptizes 1 or 1000 people, that is “works”, the one being baptized is not working as so many people try to claim. The one doing the baptizing is the one working.

  68. I do believe all that you have said in your paper, but I also beleave that when one receive the Holy Ghost ,he will led us into all true, one is baptism. When I came to the Lord I only know that the Bible is the only turth in this world. I received the Holy Ghost before being baptized, but Iknow nothing about speaking in tongues or receiving the HolyGhost, but he talked to me and told me what to do. At was afraid at first but he take me to the Bible in Rom. 8:15 where by we cry, Abba,Father an he took the fear away. I am sorry man has taken a lot upon himselfto do what GOD himself can do and without controversy. Thank you again it is avery good paper. MAY GOD RICHLY BLESS YOU ! in JESUS NAME thanks

  69. It seems like water baptism is the easy part. You can’t make yourself be filled with the Holy Spirit. Many professing Christians I know have never spoken in tongues, and many who have are not totally sure that it is really the Spirit as opposed to their own gibberish. We can only have faith that we have been truly “born” spiritually, right?

    • Ephesians 2:8 tells us that we are saved by grace through faith. If we have no faith then salvation is not even possible. We must believe in God and in His word. That faith naturally causes us to respond or to act. You cannot separate obedience from faith. If you believe what the Bible says then you will obey it or if you obey what the Bible says then you believe in it. Faith and obedience work together. So as a result of your faith you obey the gospel of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. You repent, get baptized, and receive the Holy Ghost. However, being baptized alone, as a ritual, does not have an effect. Baptism only works when the individual being baptized has faith in God’s word. Faith is also required to receive the Holy Ghost. It is a gift that we have to believe in and accept. When that person is filled with the Holy Ghost, the Holy Ghost will cause them to speak in tongues. At this point they are no longer praying with understanding but their spirit is praying. If a person is trying to form words that appear to be in an unknown tongue then it is not the Holy Ghost. Speaking in tongues should be effortless because it is not us; it is the Spirit within us. However all of this only comes through faith.

  70. I have really liked this born again paper but when you talk you sound like everyone that comes to Christ
    has to know all things about him before they come to him! Where does one start, is it where thay are at the
    time in which Christ calls or draws him/her ? Does it say one has to believe that he is ?

    • When a person comes to God they do not have to know everything about Him. We grow in our knowledge of God as we continue in relationship with Him. Hebrews 11:6 says, “But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.” This is all an individual has to do when first coming to God.

  71. We know the Bible does not contradict itself. If Irvin Baxter is correct in his interpretation of scripture, then all those who have not been baptized “in Jesus name” are going to hell. The rest of Christians who were not baptized this was are doomed to hell.

    What is interesting is that Paul the Apostle clearly stated in 1 Corinthians 1:17 “For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.”

    He made a clear distinction from the gospel and water baptism. In the previous verses, there were contentions at the Church of Corinth over baptism and who baptized them or if they were baptized the right way. It’s the same old controversy going on today. Bottom line, water baptism does not save anyone and never will. It’s only the blood of Jesus applied by faith on a person who is truly repentant. That is not to say they should not follow through and be baptized. But when you make water baptism and speaking in tongues a requirement for salvation, you have now ousted over 2/3rds of Christians. Can’t go along with your misinterpretation of scripture, especially the passage in James which has nothing to do with water baptism.

    • Jesus said, and these signs shall follow them that believe, they will lay hands on the sick, cast out devils, speak in unknown tongues. So, what do you think that scripture means. If Jesus said, this is a sign of those who believe.

    • Paul was not sent to the church in Corinth to baptize the people because they had already been baptized. The preaching of the gospel or of the word of God has multiple purposes. The word was given for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness. Paul was sent to the church in Corinth to help them straighten things out. This one statement from Paul does not mean baptism is not necessary. Mark 16:16 shows that belief and baptism save us. Peter in Acts 10 commanded people who had just received the Holy Ghost to be baptized. Paul also instructed disciples of John to be baptized in the name of Jesus even though they had been baptized unto repentance. 1 Peter 3:21 also specifically says baptism saves us. Lastly Titus 3:5 says that Jesus saved us according to His mercy by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Ghost. The Bible teaches that baptism is essential.

      • The 1 Corinthian passage stated above is the gospel of Christ that Paul was sent to preach. The second half of the passage declares ” not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect”. 1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but on to us which are saved it is the power of God. He is not stating that Christ had sent him to “help them straighten things out” though he was calling them to be “perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment” 1 Cor 1:10. in verse 14 he states that he thanks God that he had baptized “none of you, but Crispus and Gaius”. It is clear that he is making a distinction between baptism and the gospel that Christ has sent him to preach.

        • It is very easy to see from reading 1 Corinthians 1 that the people of the church of Corinth had already been baptized. It makes sense for Paul to have been sent to them for a different reason other than baptism. There was no need for these people to be baptized again. Paul was sent to preach to them. The preaching of the word of God is not always based around the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ because the word of God was given for multiple reasons. 2 Timothy 3:16 says it is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness. Also just because Paul says he did not come to baptize but to preach the gospel does not imply that Paul believed baptism was not necessary. It would be like me going to a friend that just had dinner and telling him I was ready to take him to go eat. Paul knew these people were baptized and that he was not sent to them to baptize them again. These people were saints, sanctified, people who called on the name of Jesus, and people who were called into the fellowship of Jesus. Ephesians 5:26 shows that God sanctifies his church with the washing of water by the word. 1 Corinthians 6:11 shows that the church was washed, sanctified, and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus. The Bible helps us to understand that baptism is a part of sanctification. So if these people were sanctified, then we have additional proof that they were baptized. As a result there was no need for Paul to come to the church to baptize the people. Additionally if we read through 1 Corinthians we will find that Paul is constantly solving issues, giving instructions, establishing order, or helping them straighten things out. Since this is what we constantly see Paul doing it appears that this was his purpose in writing to them.

  72. I’ve read several of the comments and they differ from “you must be baptisted” to “it’s important but not necessary”. Jesus was baptised and it is shown being done over and over again, it is a simple thing to do, so the choice is easy . So don’t be contentious brothers and sisters, follow the example of our Lord Jesus, be baptisted and move on.

  73. In the past few weeks I have baptized 13 sincere Christians in Jesus Name (Acts 2:38; Romans 6:3-5; Acts 19:5), from my home Bible study group. I give God the credit for opening their understanding about true Bible baptism, and being “Born Again.”

    • We have been baptized by an elderly couple who branched off from their Pentacostal church. They have a baptismal in their home and have baptized over 100 fine Christians in the name of Jesus Christ..some of whom received the spirit of the Holy Ghost. We..have not yet received it.
      I was wondering out of the people that you yourself have baptized, how many received the Holy ghost? And what do people do wrong that they don’t receive it? Or is it just that we need to be patient and wait on the Lord. For there is the promise……

      • Wonderful article Rev. Baxter! The real problem is, many “Christians” simply are not looking for the Bible to lead them to truth. Instead, they are using the Bible to prove what they firmly believe as truth, regardless of what truth really is. After all, if the Bible means what it says, then many friends and family members who have not obeyed that, will not be saved. And you know, NO BODY is sweeter than old granny groo, and SHE didn’t do all of that, and she believes she is saved! BUT…This Gospel only works on the hungry and thirsty, it only works on those who want to really know the truth. To those who are REALLY interested in going to heaven, no matter who is not… Regardless of what family members will think of you….To those who are stronger than the traditions of men, and who realize the road to eternal life is a NARROW ROAD, and few there be that find it… Bro. Baxter has given you clear instructions. Instead of wrestling the scriptures to your own destruction, why not just OBEY the gospel. Why not just DO what Peter said to do. As if it were a hard thing, to tell God “I’m sorry for my sins”, and go down in water, “Calling on the name of the Lord”, and receive the Holy Ghost (which HE desires to GIVE, more than we could ever even want to GET)! But no. Many will agree to disagree. The Prophet told the man, just dip in the muddy Jordan 7 times, and you’ll be healed. He argued, and almost missed his miracle. But it took a little servant, to talk some sense into him. Finally, he humbled himself, and OBEYED. And he came up with a miracle. Salvation is the greatest miracle of all!!! But there’s just ONE WAY to get it…. you MUST be Born Again! God bless you all, in your endeavors for the LORD!

  74. IS BAPTISM NECESSARY?
    Jesus said – He that believeth and is baptizes shall be saved….(Mark
    16:16).
    FOR the remission of sins as recorded in Acts 2:38.
    To SAVE us, as recorded in 1Peter 3:21.
    To WASH AWAY OUR SINS as recorded in Acts 22:16.
    To be REBORN to new life (John 3:5 & Romans 6:3).
    To CLOTHE ourselves with Christ (Galatians 3:26).
    So that GOD will RAISE us from death (Colossians 2:12; Romans 6:3).
    As a REQUIRMENT to enter heaven (John 3:5).
    To put us INTO CHRIST To die with Christ guaranteeing eternal life with Him (Romans 6:3-6).
    THE BAPTISM CHALLENGE
    If you have not been baptized then please have that accomplished immediately.
    If you were baptized as an infant please act on faith and be re-baptized (Infants have no faith and baptism is an act of personal faith in Christ.)
    If you were baptized by sprinkling please be re-baptized the Bible way.
    If you were not baptized in Jesus Name please consider obeying that command.
    If you do not know how you were baptized, then please, for you soul’s sake, be baptized again, this time in Jesus Name, just to be absolutely sure.
    If you are a pastor for God’s sake please prayerfully study baptism for your members. Many churches have come to the truth about baptism and has offered true Bible baptism to their members. I had to be re-baptized, just like the believers in Acts when the Lord opened my understanding.

    BAPTISM IS…?
    Baptism is our public confession, declared on earth, and proclaimed in heaven, that we died with Christ and are raised as He was unto a new birth; BORN AGAIN!
    Baptism is how we get into Christ.
    Baptism is always accompanied by faith and repentance.
    Baptism is God’s terms of surrender.
    Baptism is our signal to God we have accepted Christ’s gospel.
    Baptism is the external washing with water and the internal washing away of sin.
    Baptism is Calling on the name of the Lord.
    Baptism is being unified with Christ in his death, burial and resurrection.
    Baptism is “Clothing” ourselves with Christ.
    Baptism is “Accepting” Christ (on His terms, not ours).
    Baptism is when our sins are remitted.
    Baptism is how and when we come into contact with the blood of Christ.
    Baptism is when we are reborn.
    Baptism is an act of faith.
    Baptism is how we enter the kingdom of God.
    Baptism is when we exchange our life for His.
    Baptism is when we die to ourselves and come alive in Christ.
    Baptism is the washing of regeneration, and renewal of the Holy Spirit.
    Baptism is the starting gun of a race of a new life.
    Baptism is proclaiming in Christ the resurrection of the dead.
    Baptism is when we stop living for ourselves and start living for Jesus.
    When Jesus died on the cross, He, who had no sin, paid the death penalty for our sins. Through baptism we are united, or joined with Christ in paying the death penalty for sin. We are baptized into His death, into the death penalty for sin. We, who are unable to return from death because we have sin, are joined to Christ and since Christ is sinless and was victorious over death, we, now being united with Him, are made victorious being united with Christ in His resurrection (Romans 6:3-6).
    Romans 6:3-5 – Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.
    When we are baptized into Christ, we are baptized into His death, and therefore into His burial and resurrection as well. Through baptism we are united with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection; and being united with Him in this manner we rise to new life, leaving behind our old self and rising to a new. Baptism is when our old self dies and our new life begins. Through baptism we die to ourselves and exchange our life for His. Baptism is also when we come into contact with the blood of Christ. It is in baptism that we “die” with Christ…and so we therefore will live with Him as well.
    In other words, what happens in baptism is that God takes Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection and transposes it onto our life. Our old, sinful self becomes united with Christ in His crucifixion and death through baptism and we rise from the water to new life.
    Galatians 3:26-27 – For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for as many of you as were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
    Faith in Christ is a prerequisite to baptism. Faith (along with repentance) is an essential ingredient in the conversion process. It must be understood that Jesus Christ died for our sins and He raised himself from the dead (John 2:19). In being baptized into Christ we clothe ourselves with Him or put on Christ. When God looks at us he does not see our sins, but Christ’s righteousness instead.
    In Genesis 3:21 after Adam and Eve sinned (and they had died spiritually), God provided them with animal skins to clothe them and give them a covering. This required the shedding of the blood of animals. In the Old Testament a sacrifice for sin always required the shedding of blood. Under the New Covenant the shedding of blood was still required, but this time it was to be by the sinless Lamb of God that Jesus Himself shed on the cross. And just as God clothed Adam and Eve He now clothes us, but now it is with Christ Jesus.
    Some say, “But baptism is a ‘work’ and we are not saved by works…we are saved by faith alone.”
    First, we must consider what the definition of a “work” is that we are using. If one defines baptism a “work” then we must also label believing a “work.” We must also label repenting a “work.” Believing and repenting are both things we must DO as a prerequisite to salvation. They are both factors that require human action. Baptism is merely the last part of that equation. The “work” for baptism was completed by Christ at His Death. Mankind only accepts the completed work of Christ, by faith. The pastor only repeats the Name of the One who died for you while you are being placed in the watery grave! James tells us he will show us his faith by what he does.
    Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead in itself (James 2:17).
    It must be remembered that although baptism is something we must do (like believing and repenting), baptism is an act of faith, not a “work.” It must also be noted that the one at “work” when we are baptized is God, not us. He is the one who takes away our sins! See Colossians 2-12 – Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. Just as we must report to the hospital before a surgeon can operate on us, so too, we must “report to God’ in the waters of baptism, submitting to God and claiming His promise so that our sins will be remitted. Just as it is the surgeon who is the one who is at work when we are operated on, so too, it is God who is the one who is at work when we undergo baptism.
    Baptism is a manifestation of faith. It is not Man who is at work in baptism; it is God. Baptism is not a “work of righteousness.” On the contrary, if anything, it should be considered a work of UN-righteousness. We are baptized because we are corrupt, unrighteous and spiritually dead in sin. This is why we are buried with HIM into DEATH as explained in Romans 6:3. It is the DEAD that are buried, not the living. Note: We are buried with Him and not them. Some baptize in the name of the Father, Son, & Holy Ghost. The Father did not die. The Holy Ghost did not die. Jesus died and we are buried with Him symbolic of His death.
    God has always measured faith by our actions, as James 2:17-26 tells us – Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead in itself. But, someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from works, and I by my works will show you my faith. You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe — and shudder. But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith apart from works is dead? …For as the body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
    There are many who teach one is saved by “faith alone,” but there is only one place in the bible where the phrase “faith alone” is found (James 2:24). And it states very plainly we are NOT saved by faith alone!!!
    You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. The devils believe as stated in James 2:19 – Thou believest there is one God…the devils also believes and trembles. Are the devils saved because they believe? Of course not!
    Even Martin Luther, who coined the phrase “salvation by faith only,” understood that salvation by grace, through faith, did not preclude the necessity of baptism:
    In answer to the question, What does Baptism accomplish? What good is it? Luther replied in his Small Catechism, “It gives the forgiveness of sins, redeems from death and the Devil, gives eternal salvation to all who believe this, just as God’s words and promises declare.”
    It must always be emphasized that baptism is an act in which God works, not man. This happens through faith in God’s Word. In baptism we, the dead, are joined with Christ into His death. Then, being united with Him together in this death and burial, just as Christ arose from the dead, so too, He brings us up, still unified as one, with Him to resurrected life.
    Martin Luther himself was often misunderstood and misrepresented by critics of baptism who oppose the very Word of God they claim to uphold. Yet he clarified exactly what he taught:
    “For to be baptized in the name of God is to be baptized not by men, but by God Himself. Therefore although it is performed by human hands, it is nevertheless truly God’s own work…”
    Submerging beneath the surface of water and getting wet is not a “work.” The “work” that is done in baptism is done by God, not by man. The “work” that is done in baptism is the removal of the stain of sin from a person’s soul for all eternity. The “work” that is done in baptism is the transference of a sinner from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light. The “work” that is done in baptism is God taking a dead man and making him alive! The “work” that is done in baptism is God taking the unrighteous and declaring them righteous. The “work” that is done in baptism is God clothing the sinner with the righteousness of Jesus. The “work” that is done in baptism is God uniting together man’s spirit with Christ’s. And this could NEVER, EVER be accomplished by man’s work! The miracle that happens in baptism is not anything man does. It is something God Himself does through the office of Jesus Christ. Again, baptism is not our work, it is His!
    In speaking about marriage, Jesus said, So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate (Matthew 19:6).
    The participants of the wedding ceremony are no more credited with joining the man and the woman together than are participants of baptism. God does not give such credit to mere servants for this union, but reserves that honor for Himself–and rightly so. Jesus sees marriage as something God does, not man. And so it is with baptism.
    Just as the Lord tells us it is God Himself who is the one who does the joining in marriage, so too, baptism is viewed in the same way. It is God who joins us with Christ in baptism. This is a divine miracle and something infinitely beyond human capability. And in all of this, it is He who does the joining. It is God who makes the two become one. That is how it is not only in marriage, but in baptism as well. Just as marriage is a spiritual union between a man and a woman that God gets the credit for, so too, baptism is a spiritual union (between Christ and man) that God gets the credit for because it is God who does the joining. And Christ frequently portrayed Himself as the Bridegroom. In the book of Revelation, the church is portrayed as the bride. This indeed, is profound.
    THE POWER OF GOD’S BLOOD!
    Before the death of Jesus man could not get rid of his sins no matter what he did. Hebrews 10:4, For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. The blood of God is the only thing that would take away sin. We found out earlier who God is. That is the reason Jesus said in Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Whose blood? Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Whose blood?
    God came in the flesh and shed his blood for the sins of all mankind. We know this to be Jesus Christ. We need to apply His blood to our sin soaked souls to remit our transgressions. His blood is the only thing that will remit sin. The blood of animals could not remit sin.
    Jesus Christ shed His blood for past, present and future sins of the world. A good example of this is in the story of the rich man and the poor man (Lazarus) in Luke 16. I explained that event earlier in this study.
    REPENTANCE & REMISSION
    Jesus said that, Repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name . . . beginning at Jerusalem (Luke 24:47). Peter obeyed that command in Acts 2:38. Repent (step one)…be baptized in Jesus’ name for the remission of sins (step two)… and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (step three).
    WHAT ABOUT THE THIEF ON THE CROSS?
    Some will ask, “Well, what about the thief on the cross? He wasn’t baptized and Jesus very clearly told him he would be in paradise. Doesn’t that prove baptism in not essential for salvation?”
    This is a perfectly valid question and makes sense at first glance. However, the problem arises from not having a clear understanding of what baptism represents and what the scriptures tell us about it. According to Romans baptism represents being unified with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection. The problem with the thief on the cross is when Jesus told him he would be with Him in paradise is that Jesus was still alive. Christ had not yet died or been buried, so He had certainly not risen yet either. Baptism into Christ was not put into practice until Pentecost in Acts 2:38, after Christ had risen from the dead and ascended to heaven. This was a new dispensation of Grace, or the Church age.
    The thief on the cross was still under the Old Covenant and therefore not subject to this baptism. He was saved just like anyone else under the Old Covenant. How do we know that the thief was not baptized in his earlier days? We don’t! He very well could have been baptized since it was preached by “John the Baptizer” across the land. The thief knew enough to acknowledge the power of Christ. He may have been a backslider?
    WHAT ABOUT ROMANS 10:9-10?
    That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved (Romans 10:9-10).
    Remember, Paul just finished explaining in chapter 6 of Romans, and in great detail, the role of baptism. This verse does not nullify that chapter. But it is of significance, however, to note the commentary on this verse in the NIV study Bible states that Jesus is Lord. The earliest confession of Christian faith, probably used at baptism. The verbal confession of faith that Jesus is the Christ is made at baptism, and is what is seen in the case of the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts chapter 8. Notice the eunuch asks to be baptized and Philip tells him – If you believe with all your heart, you may. And then the Ethiopian eunuch confesses faith in Christ with his mouth – I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is then baptized.
    Some common traditions of men vs. the Word of God
    The Word of God says:
    He who believes and is baptized will be saved (Mark 16:16).

    • Thank you ever so much for your enlightening thoughts. May our Lord Jesus Christ richly bless you and all you do for His name.

    • I am a Christian but I have not been born again. And I don’t belong to a church. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find a church that supports my conservative Christian beliefs, that is, the churches in my area and beyond are very liberal and in fact, endorse Progressive aka leftist ideology. They do not preach the word. As an example, they support Gay Marriage and clearly they are violating G-d’s word.

      I want to be born again, is it possible to baptize myself in the name of Jesus?

    • I read your comment and I do NOT Agree with your Statement. I’m sorry sir, but you look way much into Baptism, yes it is VERY Important. You made the comment that it how you get to Heave is through Baptism. You mentioned John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, Except a Man be Born of Water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the Kingodm of GOD. But have you read the very next Verse? John 3:6 That which is Born of the Flesh is Flesh, and that which is Born of the Spirit is Spirit. When Jesus mentions about being Born of Water, he is saying your Natural Birth, when you are Born and NOT being Baptized. Jesus says that Ye MUST Be Born Again. You must come to Full Repentance and BEG for Salvation. Jesus says ye must be Converted as a Child. Jesus says to be a Beggar in Christ. Like I said Baptizing is very Important, is it necessary? NO, it is NOT have to be. Sir, you need to get down on your Knees as I do. Pray that GOD leads us into the Spirit of Truth. I will Pray for you my Friend.

      • We know without a doubt that Jesus was not referring to natural birth. Jesus was speaking about being born again, so it is clear that He was not referring to our natural birth. This is why Nicodemus was confused and questioned whether or not he had to enter into his mother’s womb again and be born. Nicodemus understood this was not referring to natural birth and Jesus’ phrase “born again” makes it clear that He was not referring to natural birth. John 3:5 explains how to be born again and this was the answer given to Nicodemus’ question.

        Also I would like to point out that we do not beg for salvation. Salvation is a gift from God and a direct result of His grace and love. If I told you to meet me at the bank tomorrow morning at 10:00 AM and I’ll give you $1,000,000,000 what would happen? More than likely you would believe what I said, respond to that belief by meeting me at the bank, and then I would give you the money. Would it be necessary for you to beg for it? No. It is a gift from me to you. Salvation with God is the same way. We believe His word, we act on that belief by obedience, and then we receive the great gift of salvation.

  75. I have been saved for over 55 years and in reading this, for the first time, someone has explained about Simon the Sorcerer. You explained that he had not completed the process by receiving the Holy Ghost. He was certainly opened to temptation. Some say he was lost. I have always hoped he went on to receive full salvation after the Apostles prayed for him. He did ask them to. Sue

  76. Every person on the planet has the capability to perform a water baptism. But only one was able to baptize by spirit and also with fire. I see the water baptism as a means to prepare and ready for the day of that heavenly baptism. (Although I would say that he “fire from the sky” was a unique phenomenom.)

    Water was a “training method”, yet I don’t think all the apostles got that. After the spiritual baptism, Peter had the greeks go-a-dunking. It also took him 3 tries with the vision on the roof.

    After centuries of sacrifices and observances, alot of Jews didn’t didn’t see Christ for what he was: the final Passover sacrifice. Just to note, each Jewish High Day and observance had a future spiritual significance, Pentacost was also a Jewish holiday that was observed and it was the birth of the Church.

    Anyway, my point is that anything we can do “physically” in this world was/is a means of seeing that which we can’t and by such aids us in “seeing” the spiritual, invisible things pertaining to God such as being baptised once and by such a baptism of the spirit.

    (any typos are due to a 3yr old jumping/climbing me)

  77. I’m glad to see this. It is a good explanation. I only wish the three steps could have been included in the info. given under What we Believe..reason, many people won’t search any deeper and retain their false
    ideas of just what being Born Again means..thus, not being fully informed as to HOW… Thanks for allowing
    my opinion to be heard. May God bless you and your work for him. Alice

  78. Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

  79. I really like the way you explained how to be born again.! It’s really ashamed that some preachers don’t want to admit that repentence, baptism and recieving the Holy Ghost has anything to do with salvation. Thanks for explaning it so clear. God bless.

  80. When debating whether or not baptisim is required for salvation, Mark 16:16 is often quoted. But you must examine ALL of the verse- there are two parts.

    Jesus does say that “he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved”— but in the second part of the verse Jesus goes on to say “but he that believeth not shall be damned.”

    Jesus does not say in the last part of the verse that “he that believeth not AND not baptized he will be damned”

    Jesus only says “he that believeth not” will be damned.

    This is in full harmony with Romans 3:28 and Ephesians 2:8,9

    We must not forget – salvation is all about what Christ did for us on the cross as sufficient payment for our sins- to all those who place their faith and trust in Jesus.

    One other point- It is often quoted that even the demons believe God is who He says He is… which people use to justify their argument against belief only for salvation…. well, a lot of humans have that same belief.. but that is what you call an intellectual belief.. which will not suffice. You have to have a true belief from the heart- the kind where you seek a true personal relationship with Christ. You will have no desire to return to your carnal ways.

    And everything will be about serving the Lord!!

    • We are justified by faith before baptism but baptism is required to complete our faith. Colossians 2 says baptism is the circumcision. Abraham was justified before he was circumcised. but if he had not been circumcised his faith would not have been complete. I Peter 3:21 says baptism does save us. It does that by us sealing our covenant relationship with Jesus Christ and by being obedient in baptism. Without faith baptism is just a bath without soap but with faith baptism is a spiritual circumcision of the heart which is required to seal the new covenant God gave us through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. That sacrifice allowed the Holy Spirit to be poured out so that we could be reconciled to the Father after the Holy Spirit drew us to repentance. When we believe as the scriptures say we are baptized in the Holy Spirit and then we seal the covenant with God by circumcising our hearts through water baptism in Jesus name.

    • You make a very good point in your closing statement that shows what true belief is. True belief is always followed by action. So there was no need to say, “He that believeth not and is not baptized” in Mark 16:16. If an individual does not believe then of course there would be no following action. Baptism is not a work that we do though. Jesus Christ died, was buried, and rose again for our salvation so He was the one who did the work. All we do is obey and apply the gospel to our life because Paul taught that we were saved by the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Titus 3:5 also clearly shows us that God saved us according to His mercy by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Ghost. So the scripture clearly teaches that we do not do those things to save ourselves but God saves us this way according to His mercy.

  81. John 20:23 Jesus taught his disciples about they role in His new plan for the church. This has to do with us remitting sins. Peter preached this plan in Acts 2:38, we are to baptize people in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins that is our role and give them the Holy Ghost that’s his part, hence that’s why he said, in John 20 22 Receive the Holy Ghost: And they did in Acts 2:2-4 “That’s the plan folks and there no other”. STUDY AND PRAY!!!

  82. Brothers and sisters, God continue blessing your lives. We have to believe in the whole word of God, and if the Bible says to us ,do this, follow this…..we just do it.!!!!
    we are followers of Jesus, so lets do what Jesus teach us in his word. Do not be confused….. just obey and blessings will come to our life. What Jesus said yesterday is the same for today and tomorrow. we just obey and WE do not take just one verse of the Bible TO UNDERSTAND.

    START READING THE BIBLE, and do not let the spirit of deceive confuse you, IF YOU ARE CONFUSE PRAY TO GOD, ASK FOR THE HOLY GHOST COME TO YOUR LIFE, AND HE WILL GIVE YOU WISDOM AND SPIRIT OF PEACE. Because God is not god of confuse , H e always bring peace to our life.
    “When you have the Holy Ghost in your life, you have the power of God, so nobody can take you away of the true of God’s word. when you only believe in him but you are not filled with his Holy Ghost will be easy to get deceive and then to follow men doctrines.

  83. You mean to tell me that, all this time I have been having trouble with building a connection with GOD WAS BECAUSE I DID NOT GET A FULL BAPTISM? I GOT IT AS A CHILD BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT DOES NOT COUNT. I have been struggling trying to stay on track spiritually and letting Jesus be the LORD of my life. I am going to repent and be Baptized in the name of Jesus. Then ask him what is next for me to do for his will. I sent an email to a church please pray for me because I have been lost. There is so many interpretations of the bible that I just stop reading it in 4 months. I have fallen away and I am confessing that I am a sinner. I need to be clean Jesus.

    • Please do not stop reading the bible. It is the only way we can know the Father. It is by his Word that we know Him. Just keep reading and trusting in Him. Ask him for understanding. Then do what it says to do. Most importantly you must be connected to a bible believing church body. NO ONE can be a Christian on their own. And remember, we can’t be without sin on our own. We must have the Holy Spirit working in us. Don’t be discouraged. Be excited and hopeful because God loves us and He has provided a way to be saved. And he is not will that anyone would be lost.

    • Jesus answered, “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” The second birth is a spiritual birth.
      It also says in the bible.
      “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost” (Acts 2:38). Peter was giving them the plan of salvation: repentance, baptism, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. If being born again is to be saved, Peter was evidently talking to them about being saved.

      The fact that you are searching is a step in the right direction. I never enjoyed reading the bible but now I can’t get enough. Keep reading, you will find all your answers and I will pray for you.

      God Bless

  84. Praise the Lord!
    I agree with Galatians 1:8, we should not preach anything but what the apostles preached. In Acts 18:24-26 we find Apollos teaching about Jesus, but knowing only John’s baptism. Aquila & Priscilla heard him, but realized immediately that he needed more than what he already had and was teaching. We know that he believed, but apparently he was still missing something of vital importance that pertained to the gospel. The Bible says, “whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.”
    Does that show us what they taught him, more than just believing?
    No, so let’s continue on to the very next
    chapter, to where Paul encountered others that also believed & knew only of John’s baptism.
    At the start of chapter 19 we see this account taking place, followed by what Paul actually preached.

    Acts 19:1-6 “And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
    When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.”

    Immediately Paul asks them, “Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed?”
    Furthermore, He goes on to ask, “Unto what then were ye baptized?”
    Now, you have to ask yourself, “If none of this was important, or essential, and it ONLY took believing, why did Paul waste his time, breath, and energy preaching this to them?”

    Let’s go back to John 3:16 really quick; I think this may shine some light on the situation here.

    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
    There is one word in this passage that tells us why Paul, an apostle commissioned by Christ, felt it was so important to preach this message to them. “Should”
    If I gave my son $50, he “should” put it in the bank. However, since I am his father I know that he probably “would” not.
    Just because we “should” have done something, doesn’t mean we “would” have.

    Let’s go to another Scripture in the book of John that talks about believing.
    Joh 7:38 “He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.”
    Again, Jesus speaking here, He opens our understanding more to His words spoken previously in 3:16. Well, what does all of this mean? The very next Scripture gives us a fuller understanding, let’s look.
    Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
    Uh oh, there’s that word again. “Should” It does not say, “…that believe would receive…” bur rather, “…should receive.”
    You are correct that we must believe, because without belief in Him we would never have the opportunity to be saved. According to what Paul preached, belief is a prerequisite of salvation. Jesus Himself testifying that without belief we can’t be saved(John 3:18).
    The thief on the cross was able to be saved through His belief in Christ only because “…Jesus was not yet glorified.” The Holy Ghost had not yet been given, and they were still under “law”, while we are blessed to be under “grace.” All accounts of salvation after Jesus’ resurrection & ascension are exactly the same as what Peter preached on the day of Pentecost. Jesus told Peter, “I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven..,” that is why Peter was the apostle to preach on the day of Pentecost.

    Let’s look one more time at what Jesus told Nicodemus about being born again.
    “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
    Now look with me at Jesus speaking to the apostles.
    Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
    Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

    When did He promise them the Holy Ghost?
    John 7:38-39

    Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    Act 1:8 “But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”

    Jesus said “All power is given unto me..,” then later He tells His disciples, “But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you…”

    2Timothy 3:1-5 “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers,incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    Paul says that in the end time, people will have a “form of godliness” but deny the power thereof. We know according to previous Scripture that the “power” is the Holy Ghost. According to Paul, believing on Jesus is not the same as receiving the Holy Ghost. We also know from Jesus, that if we “believe…as the Scripture hath said…” we will receive the Holy Ghost. Without the Holy Ghost we lack power, but only believing does not give us the Holy Ghost. Joel 2:28-29, Acts 2:37-40

    Have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed?

    God bless,
    Steve

  85. You guys are really confusing the Gospel.Galations 1:8 “But if even we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.” The gospel is John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life” I agree Jesus died was buried and rose again. Simply put we do not have to die be buried and rise ,symbolically or literally. We have to believe. Period. Jesus did that so we would not have to. Please do not be fooled. If you teach anything different you see what Paul said above.

    • Mike, Jesus himself said that if you believe according to scripture you will have rivers of living water flowing from your innermost being (John 7:38-39). John explains that Jesus is talking about the Holy Spirit which was poured out on the day of Pentecost. Peter said what happened on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2) was prophesied in the Old Testament. If we believe as scripture says (which is all that’s required on our part) we will be filled with the Holy Spirit. This can only happen after repentance. It will never happen before we repent. Our response to seal this covenant relationship with God is baptism in Jesus name. This gospel is the only gospel preached in the bible. Just saying I believe isn’t believing according to scripture. in Acts 10 there is a man who by all accounts would be an up standing church member. He believed in God, prayed and gave to the poor. Peter said he already knew of the works of Jesus. But in Acts 11 Peter says he was sent to tell this man how his household could be saved. At the point they heard the message and believed according the scriptures the Holy Spirit fell on them. Acts 10 says the Jews knew that this man’s household had received the Holy Spirit because they heard them speak with tongues. After Peter had explained all of this in Acts11 he said he remembered that the purpose of Jesus coming was to baptize in the Holy Spirit. John the baptist also said that was Jesus’ purpose. This is not a new gospel but THE gospel prophesied in the Old Testament, preached by Jesus himself and lived out by the Apostles.

    • Salvation is a type and shadow Jesus death burial and resurction. Repent/ means you are dead to sin.If you are really sorry you will stop sinning. ///Buired with him in baptism so shall you be risen with him.Thats how you apply the Blood of Jesus/ Acts 22/16 says it washes away your sins./// The Holy Ghost;God does not live in the ark anymore he lives in you.You are the temple of the Holy Ghost.This is the power that will raise you from the dead or propell you in the rapture. This is in direct agreement with what Peter told the interested saints in Acts 2/38…… BRO. ARTIE

  86. In order to be born again, you need to be baptized in Jesus name. Says Peter in the Bible. Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized in Jesus Name for your sins. We die daily when we repent in his name. When we get baptized, we die like Jesus did and we come back up a new man and woman. That is the circumcisn which is the for the new testiment. In the old testiment we had to circumcise the men when they were 8 days old. Now we just have to be submerged in water and have Jesus Christ claim.

    • I may be misunderstanding you, so forgive me if so. Being born again is more than just water baptism according to Scripture(John3:5).
      (John 3:8)The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
      Jesus is continuing one line of thought or one message here to Nicodemus. Jesus is talking about receiving the Holy Ghost. As you pointed out in Acts 2:38, Peter declared repentance and baptism, but to finish he said “and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” (Acts 2:38)Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
      In 2:39 he continued his message -(Acts 2:39)For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
      The promise he spoke of is the same experience(promise) the prophets of the OT said would happen, and the same “wind” that Jesus spoke about. (Isaiah 28:11-12, Joel 2:28, John 3:8, Acts 2:2-4)
      After reading John 3:5 you can see that according to Jesus, being born again is not only water, but also Spirit. Peter preached the message of salvation to the Jews, then later to the Gentiles, they all received the same promise of salvation and the same experience for salvation. Acts 2(Jews), Acts 10:44-47(Gentiles)
      God bless :)

  87. To be born again is spiriual and no man can be born again until he repent and choose God and truly knows God you can than and only than Once the new kingdom comes and truely comes to know God can be born of his spirit and thus becoming part of the God family.

    People dont understand that God’s purpose for us is to be like him and the ones who make it and comes to really know God; will be like him, your body will grow into spirit not physical just as Jesus did

  88. I get confussed about the rapture, some people belive in a pre-tribe, and some say not untill the end and Christ returns. Does that mean that most of us and going to die off in the great war which is coming soon?

  89. Great Truth, I was raised in a religious atomosphere and it was not until I broke loose from from man’s “I think ” that I found the truth of the Scriptures. One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism…… Marvel not that I say you must be born again, the wind bloweth where it listeth and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst tell whether it cometh or it goeth and so is everyone that is born of the Spirit. So many people do not understand that Nicodemus did not understand what Jesus was telling him. Read it and see the Word will prove it. He finally told him as you would a child when you are getting no response from the child when telling the child how to tie his shoes. The only way you will understand Nicodemus is to believe and hold on for a promise is coming. There were a great number of disciples and followers who only saw the physical but could not understand the Spiritual, start at John chapter 1 and read all the way to chapte 6. They understood the physical healing but could not understand the Spiritual healing that was to come. There was a great falling away in John chapter 6. Jesus asked the twelve will you also leave. Basically they said we don’t understand, but we know that you have the words of salvation. If John 3:16 would have completed the process, why would they still be waiting. In Luke 24:45 just before Jesus ascended to Heaven, the word says he opened their minds so they could understand the scriptures. When this happened, it clicked. Peter went from denying Jesus to preching with power and authority after Jesus opened their understanding in the book of Acts. Also look at John 7:38-39. In the great day of the feast, out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water(but spake he of the spirit for it was not yet given because that Jesus was not yet glorified). The book of John was written some time later approximately 60 years give or take. When John penned the word that Jesus said 60 years later, he realized what Jesus was talking about on the great day of the feast, WHY? Because he had recieved the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost and he put it into the scriptures giving explantion in verse 39. The mattter of the thief on the cross; the dispensation of grace had not begun. Hebrews say without the death of a testator a will in testament is of non effect. Your dad must die before you inherit the will(promise)(promise of the father). He had to die for the dispensation of grace to begin. Jesus had all authority to forgive or do anything He wanted because He was God manifest in the flesh while on this earth. The word says believe on Me as the scripture sayeth, not some positive thinker. You can’t think your way into heaven. Its only by His Spirt being born again (Acts 2:38)and then you get the power(Acts 1:8). The people who hung Jesus believed as Peter preached because I read where they were pricked in their heart and they asked the question; What must we do? They believed! Acts 2:38. I only responded to this is because I was one who once thought all I had to do was believe. James states, thou believe there is one God thou doest well, the devil’s also believe and tremble. I don’t believe it will do them much good. Man you have got to know! Don’t trust someone who JUST teaches you out of the letters written to the church’s. Use the whole Bible. You never see an expample of one person being saved in the letters to the Church’s, not saying that no one was saved at this time but it does not show me an example. Lo, I have come in the volume of the Book. Take religon and throw it out the window and study to show thyself approved! To Believe is only the start of a relationship.

  90. Thanx for this bit of information. I myself had some concern about being born again and u av enlightened me. I thank you.Amen

  91. God is eternal light and love. As each person is born, God imparts a piece of that light on your soul. As we age, the cares of this world diminish that light. God asks us not to put that light under a bushel, but let it shine for all men, that they may know the Lord. When we are born again, when we accept the truth of God’s salvation thru the work of the cross, thru Jesus the Christ, that light is renewed. We are born into eternal salvation and it is that light that draws others to us, it is that light that draws us to Him. Those who have died and come back have seen that light and overwhelming love and accepance, and are sad, even angry that they must return to this world. One day all will be In The Light or separated from it eternally. The wonderful truth is: God gave us that choice. Amen and come Lord Jesus.

    • I prayed for a man a few days from death. He was filled with the holy spirit and was telling all
      the nurses about Jesus. He was obviously saved and went to heaven; he however did not
      have the opportunity to be water baptized. God knows the heart and He knows those who are
      His and will not lose one of them.

    • We know that God’s word is forever settled in heaven. God will go by his word and this is why we have to teach exactly what the Bible says. Ultimately we are not the judge and God will have the final say. If you have other questions feel free to contact us by going to http://www.endtime.com/contact-us/.

  92. Yes,the bible makes it very clear;you must be born again,fully believing Christ is the Son of God-(God our Father who shows us the way and proved His love for us through Jesus),who was tortured,nailed to a cross,then WITH HIS BREATH, TOOK AWAY DEATH.(death of our souls.)What was done for us is beatiful beyond words and all we must do to be saved isBELIEVE Jesus is the Son of God and our only salvation,be BAPTIZED with His Holy Spirit and REPENT;in(John14:6)Jesus said “I an the way,the truth and the life.No one comes to the Father except through Me.”(John 3:16,Acts16:31andMANY more verses)tell usthis.Baptizing-(Mark 1:8)John says,”indeed I baptized with water,but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”Jesus and repenting-(Luke13:3, Matthew11:20and more.)If we truely repent,God said,..”I WILL NOT remember your sins.”-(Isiaih43:25).It’s important!God will bring EVERY work into judgment,including every secretthing,wheather good or evil.-(Ecclesiastes 12:14)So,do this and “..lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.”(Matthew6:19-21)and remember,Eye has not seen nor ear heard nor has entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who loveHim.-(1 Corinthians2:9).That’s how great heaven is,so followHim and it will be your eternal home.

  93. What about if you are baptized in Jesus name only????? what about in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit? does this count???

    • Baptism is the new testament’s equivalent to circumcision in the old testament. It is what identifies us as a Christian in covenant with Jesus just as circumcision identified a man in the old testament as a Jew in covenant with God. The first key is understanding that the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is Jesus. There’s not enough time to go into that explanation but it can easily be shown in scripture. The second key is that the point of baptism is being associated with Christ’s burial and resurrection. It is necessary to baptized in the name of Jesus because it is with Jesus that we are being associated and it is His name that saves. There is no saving power in the words father, son or holy spirit. Only in the name of Jesus.

    • Look through the New Testament and see how many baptisms were done in the name of Jesus and how many were done in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If you still would like to discuss this with someone please contact us by going to http://www.endtime.com/contact-us/.

  94. Thanks brother Baxter. How about Romans 10: 9 to 10, that thanks only of believing and confessing as the only criterial to be saved ?

    • The book of Romans is writen to the Roman church that Paul started , not to the sinner of today to be saved , it is for the roman church to remind them of their salvation and how they obtained it. By being born again jn.3:3-8.the acts 2:38 that peter preached. is the same message paul preached.

      • 2nd Timothy 3 verse 16 says ALL Scripture (key words) is given by inspiration of God, and it profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

        so that means even though he was talking to roman church back then “his word” GODS WORD is still the same yesterday, today, and forever.

        The Bible was inspired by God, and if it says to do this or to do that? how do you sappose you go about showing your love for him without applying his word to your life.

    • Thanks brother Baxter. How about Romans 10: 9 to 10, that talks only of believing and confessing Jesus as our Lord and saviour as the only criterial to be saved ?

      • Femi, it is absolutely important to understand that Romans 10:10 is truth. We ARE saved by faith. BUT BUT BUT you can’t stop there. Romans says that Abraham was justified by faith BEFORE he was circumcised. But you can see by the old testament what would have happened if Abraham refused circumcision. James tells us that it was Abraham’s works that made his faith complete. If he hadn’t circumcised himself his faith would have been void. Romans 6 says we are united with Christ in baptism which is the new testament equivalent to circumcision (Colossians 2). Romans 8:9 says if you don’t have the Holy Spirit you are not saved. All of this might seem to contradict itself but if you understand that we are saved by faith when we believe according to scripture it makes perfect sense. Jesus said if we believe according to scripture we will have rivers of living water flowing from our bellies. He was talking about the Holy Spirit that was not poured out yet (John 7:38-39). SO…. we are saved by faith but since the intent of Romans was to say that EVERYONE who has faith can be saved not just those following the law it doesn’t go into detail like other books do. Yet it still gives requirements leading up to Romans 10. When you look at the new testament as a whole it is abundantly clear that we are drawn by the Spirit to repentance. Then at the point our hearts are turned to God and and when we believe as the scriptures have said God baptizes us in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of tongues. Our response to that event is to seal the covenant with God by being baptized in the only saving name of Jesus Christ.

      • We have to take into account all scripture because it is all given from God for our benefit(2 Timothy 3:16). If a passage tells us we have to confess Jesus to be saved and another passage tells us if we are baptized we are saved, which is correct? We do not choose one or the other but we choose both.
        James taught that our faith or belief should be accompanied by works. James 2 teaches the principle of faith being dead if there are no works to show for your faith. For example, if you believe the store your in is on fire but you do not try to escape the store, did you really believe? It would seem that you did not. If you truly believed the store was on fire you would’ve done everything you could have to escape the store. So with faith comes action. This is why Mark 16:17-18 gives us signs that will follow those who believe. So when we truly believe, we will obey the word and apply it to our lives. Action will always follow true belief.

        • YES!!!! Faith without works is Dead….is what scripture tells us. AMEN!!! In order to be saved you must repent, be born again (baptised)in JESUS NAME, and be filled with the HolyGhost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the spirit gives the utterance! Then the work starts :) and you apply HIS WORD to your life and follow it.

  95. Hello Brother Irvin Baxter, Thanks for the wonderful teaching on this subject. Kindly help me further with Mark 16: 15 – 18 in context of your teaching. Yours in Christ,Stephen.

    • This is a passage that lets us know the importance of baptism. Baptism appears to be essential for salvation in Mark 16:16. Also we see here that actions will follow our belief. This fits with what James talked about in James 2. If you have other questions please contact us by going to http://www.endtime.com/contact-us/.

  96. TRUTH, PEOPLE DON’T EXPLAIN THE WORD THIS WAY. DID NOT OUR HEART BURN AS WE READ YOUR EXPLAINATION OF GODS WORD.THE TRUE PLAN OF SALVATION.I REALLY WAS BLESSED BY THE EXPLAINATION OF THE DEATH BURIAL RESURECTION PIECE FOR CHRIST AND THE BELIEVER. GOD BLESS YOU. PLEASE KEEP TEACHING. WE LOVE YOUR MINISTRY.

    • God is soooo Goood!! Praise God I love the way you have explained God’s beautiful plan of salvation!! I pray for you to keep going with the bible studies God has given you. Amen.

  97. Sir, Jesus cannot lie, when the word of God states that Jesus told the thief after he asked him to remember him when he comes into his kingdom, that on that day he would be with him in paradise, I believe he WAS with him in paradise. Also, look at the many people that Jesus saved and then told them that their faith had saved them and to go and sin no more, where was the mention of baptism? I don’t disagree with submersion baptism as I am a born again Christian and have been baptized by full water immersion. I feel that this does two things, first it is a public profession of faith in Jesus Christ and it is following the example that Jesus showed mankind by example that once you are saved and then baptized, you are identified with the Christian faith as opposed to Judaism. When God made the covenant with Abram, the sign of the covenant was for all males to be circumcised. When Jesus made himself known to John the Baptist through his baptism, this is like the covenant that God made originally with Abram and Jewish nation. It identifies us with Christ. I believe that once you realize that you are a sinner and then REPENT and ask Jesus into your heart and life, that you are born again, not until after baptism. Thank you for reading this. God bless you all.

    • Philip, you did a wonderful job of answering your own question. Jesus did not mention baptism to the people you spoke of because they were circumcised or because they were women still under the old covenant which was sealed by circumcision of the men. The Holy Ghost had not been poured out yet so the requirement was still to honor the Sabbath which is the Holy Ghost in the new testament. So if those people were circumcised and honored the Sabbath the only thing they lacked at that time was faith in the Messiah. Look at the old testament and see what would happen if the men did not circumcise themselves or honor the Sabbath. Abraham was justified by his faith before circumcision but you know what would have happened if Abraham had refused to be circumcised. Your equation of baptism to circumcision is absolutely correct according to Colossians 2. Add the Holy Ghost becoming our Sabbath in the new test and apply the requirements of both those principles and salvation will make sense in both testaments. Nothing changed. Only that the requirements in the old testament were of the flesh (Faith, circumcision and Sabbath). In the New Testament the requirements are of the Spirit (Faith/Repentance, baptism and the Holy Ghost).

    • MY DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTER’S, HE THAT HATH AN EAR LET HIM HEAR, YES JOHN 3:5 SAYS WE MUST BE BORN OF WATER AND OF SPIRIT TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. NOW THESE ARE TWO SEPERATE EXPERIENCES. AND THE ONLY REASON I KNOW THAT IT IS ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE BEAR WITNESSED TO THIS IN MY OWN LIFE. NOW TO THE GENTELMAN ON THE CROSS NEXT TO JESUS, IS HE IN PARADISE? YES HE IS BECAUSE THE WORD OF GOD NEVER RETURNS VOID. AS FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST DO WE NEED TO BE BAPTISED? YES , WHY DID JESUS EMANUEL (GOD WITH US) GET BAPTISED, AS AN EXAMPLE FOR US TO FOLLOW. CLAIM ME BEFORE MAN AND I’LL CLAIM YOU BEFORE MY FATHER, DENY ME AND I’LL DENY YOU BEFORE MY FATHER. NOW WHO MADE THE DECISION ON THAT GENTELMAN BEING IN PARADISE, JESUS CHRIST DID, SO IT IS NOT FOR US TO TELL OTHERS NOT TO BE BAPTISED, THAT WAS A GOD DECISION NOT A MAN’S PLEASE DON’T TRY TO BE GOD FOR THERE IS ONLY ONE. FOR THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ABUNDANTLY MERRY CHRISTMAS

    • The thief made it to heaven only because Jesus hadn’t died yet. The testator of the new testament had not died, therefore He could not invoke the salvation plan on the thief. He gave Peter the keys to the kingdom. On the day of Pentecost(the birthday of the church). Peter stood up and said, ” Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission sins and ye shall receive the Holy Ghost.

    • The thief on the cross, as well as those who Jesus told “thy sins be forgiven thee” or “go and sin no more” were saved unto the teaching of John the Baptist. It is very important to know that this was prior to pentecost. The church ‘age’ started after pentecost. Remember Acts 19:3 – These desciples that Paul encountered were baptised “Unto John’s baptism” a different ‘dispensation’. They heard of pentecost and were then born of water and of the Spirit. Please note one thing, nothing mentioned above is something that I think – it is pure bible. We can get in a lot of trouble when we start our biblical conversation with “I think”. There are too manny people that think too many things. Also, when I am looking for an interpretation of the gospel I look to the disciples for the interpretation. For example, if I need a better understanding of Matthew 28:19 or Mark 16:15-16 I will go to God’s spokesperson (Peter, with the other apostles) in Acts 2:38. Here Peter is direct, simple and to the point when asked, “what shall we do.” Many people have opinions, the apostles gave us the ‘word’.

    • I believe that the thief was saved as well. There have been different dispensations throughout history. For example, at the time of the flood salvation for those people was the ark. For us now it is the gospel. 1 Corithians 15:1-4 tells us that we are saved by the gospel which is the death, burial, and resurrection. People who lived during the time of Jesus could not have been saved this way since Jesus was alive. Romans 6:3-4 and Colossians 2:12 teach that we are buried with Jesus in baptism. Mark 16:16 teaches that he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. Other verses that teach on salvation are Acts 2:38, John 3:3-5, and Titus 3:5. If you have any questions feel free to contact us by going to http://www.endtime.com/contact-us/.

  98. This is good article. I meet a lot of people who would ask if am born again and yet they do not understand the meaning of that. Most people take it as state that those who claim to be followers of Christ are. They think just by singing what they call a gospel song or attend a church service they are born again. I think this means beyond what our little imagination.This means having a personal relationship with God that leads to total salvation. But most people who claim to be born again are actually living a contrary life to what is required.

    God Bless and Thank you

  99. December 3rd, 2010 at 2:01 am

    Thank Brother Baxter for allowing yourself to be used of God to such great magnitude. I appreciate the fact that you and Endtime Ministry Team are doing the Work of God and in such unity and one accord. However, I now the Bible saids, not compare ourselves. It would be nice if and a huge blessing to have Endtime Ministry blossom here in New England.

    So many people have religion but enough relationship with Jesus Christ.
    I hope to teach along with Bible studies some Endtime studies too.

    God Bless and Thank you

  100. Thanks Brother Baxter for all your in depth study of Gods word. I have really learned so much the last three years listening to your radio archives. Today’s study. Is there life after life was the most detailed study on that subject I have ever heard. I am going to send it to ever one I know.
    In Christ
    Cheryl in California

    • THANKS BROTHER BAXTER FOR YOUR IN DEPTH REVELATION ON THE BIBLICAL STEPS IN GETTING BORN AGAIN.GOD RICHLY BLESS YOU.I WOULD LIKE TO ASK,CAN A BELIEVER RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHOUT BAPTISM? I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.

      • The Bible records people receiving the Holy Ghost before being baptized so it is possible. However both of these things are essential to salvation.

        • Yes that is correct I was baptized in the holy spirit while a Christian prayed for me over the
          phone. After a while I was baptized in water in lake Ontario. The order doesn’t matter
          it’s obedience that is important.

  101. Excellent article. It is so rare that God’s plan for salvation is properly taught, even within christian churches.

    ” Blessed are they who, placing their trust in the cross, have gone down into the water… We indeed descend into the water full of sins and defilement. However, we come up, bearing fruit in our heart, having the fear of God and the trust in Jesus in our spirit. ”

    Barnabas 70-130 A.D.

  102. thank you very much for giving us the explanation of how to be born again.i really appreciated everything and i pray to god that through your web site we can learn more about god revelation.