June 3, 2013
The Two Witnesses: Who are They?

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  1. I don’t believe that, if either Moses and Elijah, or Enoch and Elijah are the two witnesses, they would be reincarnated to be so. Why can’t they simply appear?

  2. I came across an explanation of the 2 endtime witnesses which said that they will be angels. Do you agree with that interpretation. It seemed very convincing. God Bless

  3. dear editor the Bible is really a sacred truth and spiritually discerned.The book of revelations is prophetic and the bible is its own code. the two witnesses are Old and New Testaments during the time of French revolution.

  4. Great topic. I did have a follow-up comment on reincarnation. Was Lazarus raised from the dead by Jesus? if so, would he have died a second time & wouldn’t this be a form of reincarnation? I don’t know if Elijah or Moses are either of the witnesses, but the bible does not say that a person cannot die more than once, just that they are appointed to die at least once. Per the rapture, “not all will sleep” & per Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead, not all must die only once, I think we can see that this is a general rule for mankind that God enforces based on his will & plan.

  5. Proverbs 2:
    My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.

  6. In revelation 11 it says if any man will hurt them fire proceideth out of their mouth. Yu have two eyes one mouth. I should know. Read Mattew 6:1-6, and then Proverbs chapter 2

  7. For those that insist on claiming to be one of the two witnesses. Know this, one witness is no witness. That is the whole point. Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established. One witness can establish nothing. This is how we know you lie. Its so simple, you don’t meet the requirments that our Father has given us. Do not let him decieve you people. One witness is not to be believed.

  8. According to James 5:17 Elijah was a man of passions like unto us
    in other words an ordinary man. We think of our great heroes of the
    Bible as “great”, and they indeed did great things empowered by
    God’s Spirit, but notice they themselves could tell you how they
    were no different than us. Amos said I was not a prophet, nor the son of a prophet, but a gatherer of wild figs. The Angel of God called called Gideon O mighty man of valor, and Gideon said, But
    I am the least in my father’s house. So why could not the two
    witnesses be two ordinary men of our generation, prepared by
    God for a time, a day, an hour in which they will fulfill their calling
    in the spirit and power of a Moses, or an Elijah?

    a mighty man of valor, and Gideon said

  9. Irvin, why do you say that the two witnesses will be prophecing during the same 3.5 years as the beast? Isn’t it very biblical that prophets usually are sent to warn people of coming judgement and or other very important things?

    • Revelation 11 shows the two witnesses will be ministering during the time the Antichrist is in power. We do not know the exact message they will preach but they will likely speak of the wrath of God to come and the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

  10. Yes, exactlly, the two witnesses they are two men of Israel under the anointing of Elijah and Moses.

    here is the biblical way:
    In Revelation 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

    In the first sentence of the V6. turn back to the old testament the history of Elijah the Prophet. Only Elijah spoke that will not drop the rain until he speak. Read 1 King 17:1 and James 5:17.

    In the second sentence. Lets turn back again the life of Moises when they go to pharaoh The Lord spoke to Moses to smite with the rod that is in your hand upon the waters which are in the river, and they shall be turned to blood. Exodus 7:14-21

    God Bless

  11. Since God has put in our hearts the desire to know and understand end time prophecy, it is not a gift to be used to exalt ourselves or plan selfish deeds. God is and will use each one of us just as Daniel 11:32 states. That is our focus especially since the church does not preach on this and the Bible clearly states that many will be deceived and unfortunately as we know it does include many believers. Be blessed.

  12. The two witnesses are the believers. We are not necessarily literally killed but our voices are being stopped as we are nearer and nearer to the end and are quite possibly now in the final tribulation. While Christians were crucified or fed to the lions in the past now the attack is under the guise of separation of Church and State or perhaps political correctness. Whether it is prayer in government or opening a Bible in public school, the Devil appears to be having a field day. It is difficult but not impossible to find a true Bible-believing Church as opposed to the peace and prosperity gospel. You can speculate all you want about the two witnessess but they are the body of believers whether in the Church or outside the Church. The true Christians can never lose their salvation but we will appear “dead” as God loosens His restraint on Satan and it appears Satan is winning. Surprised will the unbelievers be when our Lord comes like lightening from the east and we are caught up in the air to be with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ!

  13. I get tired of peole “guessing” who will do what. God knows who the two witnesses are; and when the time comes, those that have kept His commandments will also know. The rest of the world will hate them and call them devils. I’ve met people that have told me that “they” are one of the two witnesses; and they think it will be a glorious venture. Read the scriptures folks… They will be hated by the world (when they are killed the world will celebrate and send gifts to one another. They will have to kill people. They will have to cause the world to thrist; after they dry up the rain; and turn water into blood (even their loved ones will have to suffer through that). They will release virtually every plague ever known upon the world. They have not stopped and thought about that. They will have only the “chosen ones” as their friends (and also God the father, Yashua the son and also the Holy Spirit). How is killing “Millions” and including your loved ones in that “FUN”? Yes, the two witnesses are alive today; and getting closer to the Heavenly Father than they were before they knew that they were chosen for this mission. They are watching in horror, the way the world is getting. How Satan has infiltrated the churches and twisted God’s word into something God (nor Yashua) said. I don’t know when they will be appearing, but I’m suspecting within the next decade. If you know of someone that says they are one of the two witnesses, describe what I just wrote to them and ask them how glorious killing and torturing Millions will be.

    • Do you know what you’re saying? They are not happy for what they are going to do. Their hearts will be full of sorrow because of the things they need to do. The two witnesses will send plagues to people not to torture them nor to make them suffer but this is the only thing that they need to do so that when people didn’t take the plagues anymore they will come to Jesus and confess that they have sinned against Him. Two witnesses will come to warn the people that the coming of Jesus is going to happen soon. That is an act from God, He will send the two witnesses to preach His word at least in the last chance many people will be saved from the pouring of His wrath to earth.

    • I would like to add…. Almost every church today has been infiltrated by fallen angels (demons). Look at how many people believe in ghosts; while the bible makes it clear that when you die, you sleep and know nothing until Jesus comes again. Look at how many ministers at funerals say that the deceased is in heaven with the Lord. We will “NOT” be going to heaven. God plainly makes it clear, thet He will bring heaven down to earth. Look at how many ministers today say that reguardless of what church (faith) we believe in, we all are praying to the same God. Read the Bible…. God tells us that there are “many” false gods. He also tells us to avoid man’s traditions, yet we celebrate Christ’s birth and resurection on days that have pagen god backgrounds. Where in the Bible do we read about Santa, a decorated Christmas tree, or the Easter Bunny. Look into the history of those items; and they are all part of pagan religions. Look at how many churches have “costumed” halloween parties, with withches, ghosts, devils, etc. Do you really think that God accepts that in “His” church. I could go on; but, now is not the time; as the list is not just long, but “L O N G”!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Hi friends, the moment for the truth has come, surely the Messiah is coming and as the church we ought to prepare ourselves very well. about the two witnesses, one of them is infact going all over the earth telling people to repent now, about the second God has not yet revealed.

  15. Many Christians get interested with the two witnesses but the truly is, if they start their ministry here on earth many will hate them. I had a dream about one of the two witnesses. In a dream I saw many people that are being possesed by the demons attacking the one of the two witnesses(I don’t know where is the other one) but this servant of God kept rebuking them with the name of Jesus so that they cannot harm her(she’s a woman). The next scene I saw an airplane crushing into a car then she(one of the two witnesses) help the people in the car. She run to the side of the car then she stretches her hand towards the airplane and it crushed in different way. After that she look to the woman inside the car but the woman closed the window. When the one of the two witnesses saw that she walks away very sad. Why many people pretending to be this two? They think it’s only a joke! They didn’t know how hard will be the lives of the two witnesses. Many people wanted to know who the two witnesses truly are, but this two prophet are crying inside their heart for what will gonna be their life if their time will begin. People will not listen to them, demons wanted to kill them, for their entire ministry they will just live in a tent! Pray for them! Because the time of their appearance is near!

  16. I do not know who those two prophets are in the sense of positive personal idenity. It has been of interest to me for bible study and because of personal experience. I have seen the Lord Jesus, the land of ancient Egypt, the holy temple of God, and more. But the Lord has not told me the idenity of those two prophets. We will have to wait upon the Lord.

  17. Baxter I would really like if you wrote to me I have something I would like to discuss with you..Thank you hope God puts in your heart to reply

  18. Yahovah our Heavenly Father said He would send Eliyah the prophete! and Yahushua His son said that John His beloved would stay alive until He returned! They do not lie! A day in Heaven is as a 1000 years! Eliyah will return from Heaven only 2.7 days older than when He left! & John will return only 2 days older than when He left! They are still alive! they will return with in days to witness for 1260 days, then they will final die! Will you be ready for them? Will you hear their message? Or will you mock them also? Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand! Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!

    • No disrespect but you’re not one of the witnesses, do not make false accusations also don’t be fooled the devil is the king of lies and deceit …….

  19. In 1969 I became a christian after Derek Prince prayed for me and Prophesided that God would use me in a mighty way. This has been fulfilled in so many amazing ways. I am a dreamer. When I was first saved I dreamed I was transported to Israel where I entered a huge temple. Once inside I stood beffore a man about 25 feet tall, symbolic of great power. He had on a white garment, kifted his left hand and spoke in a strange language to an image that came towards me, lifted up its arm and struck downwards towards my head as I awoke. I believe he was either the false prophet or the antichrist. I believe the image was the image of the beast. I have always believed that God was showing me the end of my life in the beginning of my christian life. Another time I lay on my be in my room as the Lord gave me a vision in color while I was wide awake. I looked and beheld Abraham offering up Isaac before the Angel stopped him. Then in the same vision I saw Moses carving the ten commandment out of the mountain. Then last but not least, I saw Jesus crucified on the cross. With that the vision stopped. All three aspects of this vision were scriptural but I never understood why The Lord gave them to me unless He was telling me that all my visions would be from him.

    • Angels appear as average size people and giants are nephilium, the demonic offspring of fallen angels & women. So your understanding of this dream was correct.
      The vision of 3 events is from the word of God! It is not to be taken lightly! the 1st: Abram’s offering of Isaac: All
      that you & nothing of yours should be held from God!
      The 2nd: The LAW is carved in stone & never changes,
      All of the LAW is to be followed for ever, The doers of the LAW are God’s people! 3rd: Your sins have been bought with a price & you owe everything to your Father
      in Heaven! You have been called out! Read the LAW!
      Follow all of the Law even the 4th that most have forgotten!

  20. It would make sense that the two witnesses are ordinary people with the spirit of Moses and Elijah because the same happened to John. But will it happen twice that one has the spirit of Elijah?

  21. First, God will punish the people who worship gods. After that the two witnesses will preach to people to turn their back to their gods and confess theis sins and accept Lord Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. But all the people who does not believe in this two witnesses and does not accept Jesus will experience the wrath of God. You don’t need to argue who this two witnesses really are, because they are already here on earth, waiting for the right time to come so that they can already preach. All you need to do is be ready for the things we will experience (persecution) by being a children of God. Always pray that when the persecution will take place, no matter what happen we still stand Jesus Christ in our lives. Always remember that God is in us and He will protect us! Godbless!

  22. Eliyah is to be sent by Yah & Yahan is to be sent by Yahushua, Old testament said Eliyah was taken in a whirlwind to Heaven & New testament said Yahan left in water welling up, They did not die, Elyah was taken to
    Heaven about 2500 years ago & Yahan almost 2000 years ago, a day in Heaven is like 1000 years so Eliyah
    will come back only 2 1/2 days older than when He left & Yahan will be 2 days older. Elijah sent by God & John, disciple of Jesus has been showed to Me for some reason. The word & name Yahushua means: God’s Salvation, old testament said that the Messiah would be in type and name of the priest named Yahushua, then the oldest Greek translation of His name is IUPSALOT ( forgive spelling of iupsalot ) and the meaning of that word is: “God’s Salvation” the exact meaning of Yahushua, from there it is translated into Latin as Iesues ( today as Hay sues ) then into Iesus in English, then 1500′s they came up with a new letter called ( J ) but His name was not changed until after the 1611 KJV bible. Christ is what most use as His title, but Messiac or Messiah is His true title and it has 2 meanings, with the the mark on it: 1st He is the Anointing Prince, 2nd is Anointed King, both was used in Daniel! 1st He was to come as an Anointing Prince, to anoint
    the Holy of Holies with His blood & water, then He was cut off, Then He returns as a Anointed King to rule forever! but do not take My word for it, Ask God & read the Word of God for yourself, Only He can show you the truth! May Yahovah the Father bless you in the name of Yahushua

  23. I just read a book called The Second Exodus: Reviving the Dead Knowledge of Jesus of Nazareth. It argues that the Old Testament biblical texts are veiled, containing a hidden message that only the doctrine of Jesus could decipher. At first it sounded corny, but after reading it, it makes a very strong argument that there is a whole lot more going on in the Bible than anyone can currently see. It is essentially claiming that all of mankind is obliviously living under the prince of the world (deception) because we can’t see why the Bible is truly divine. Wondering if anyone has read it, and if so, if they have any insight if what that book claims is correct?

    • THE BIBLE, is the living will and testament of our father, who created man in his image. As his ultimate expression of LOVE. 1John 4:8 we learn that anyone capable of the faith In God, Who is The embodiment of LOVE’S existence. Being under no law or sovereign. Bound by no conceivable limitations of physics. He is the possessor of the purest, perfected form of undying LOVE in all existence! To imply that one has received this priceless gift. Now standing under the will of your holy father, I rejoice in your immorality. You have been awakened, amazing is his grace, The King became your replacement. If it wasn’t for the lamb, lighthouse, in the basement. merely is the dream and stream from spaceship. My chariot of fire has my vessel animated. I am host for the ghost standing still in his patients.

  24. The two witnesses are here but have not started their ministry. When will their ministry begin? Scripture is clear on a few things concerning their ministry. 1. Damascus will be in ruins. Damascus is being leveled but has not reached the level required to fulfill that. 2. They are from the tribe of Israel that owned land in Aram. 3. They are from a tribe that has land on both side of the Jordan. 4. They will be two prophets and they will have all authority of Heaven given them by Yeshua. 5. Their ministry will start and the whole earth will know it. Nablus will be destroyed. (Scientists will gather and try to figure out how and why it was destroyed by fire in a single night. They will say a meteorite exploded above the city. But then other cities or town will disappear. Three on the east side of the Jordan and 1 more in the north of Israel. Finally Hebron will be destroyed.) 6. The judgment of the house of God will begin. If not for the sake of the elect their ministry would not be limited to 3 ½ years. But there must be a remnant. These two men are not leaders of a church and no denomination will be able to claim them. They are not a prophet of old. They are two who were created for this one purpose. They know Yeshua and speak to Him face to face. He calls them friends. On their hand He has placed His ring and with it His authority. And all the Hosts are at their call. They will put the unfaithful disobedient servants who were to care for Yeshua’s bride to death. They will crush the head of the Harlot who dressed her with iniquity. All that try to harm them or oppose them will die. All who bow down to them will die. Only those that hear their words who do as they say will live. Come out from the rebellious unholy church. Wash yourselves, Take nothing and don’t look back and you will be spared. Stay and you will die. Run and you will be hunted down, hide and you will be found. All those leaders of this wicked rebellious church will have a ring placed in their noses, their tongues removed and will be dragged through the streets and left for the birds of the air.

  25. The two witnesses are alive and well. They are waiting till the Lord speaks and their 3 1/2 ministry begins. Their ministry begins when the 7 year peace deal is signed between Israel and Palestine, which looks like it will be complete by the the spring of 2014! Look up our redemption draws nigh!

    • The 7 year peace was the oslo accords they lasted exactly 7 years to the date. The media proclaimed peace peace yet their was sniper fire, Peace peace yet there was bombings. At the end of the 7 years the 2nd infadta started.

  26. The two witnesses will both be male, unmarried and childless. They will not be Old Testament prophets returned from beyond. But their lives will parallel the Old Testament prophets. One will be born into a pagan/gnostic religious practice. God shall call him out of this ‘House of Pharaoh’ into the true Christian Faith. He will travel to Jerusalem and the ‘spirit of Moses’ will be poured upon him and he shall proclaim the law of God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. The other witness will be born an Orthodox Jew but God shall call him into the true Christian Faith. He will meet the gentile born prophet face to face for the first time when he arrives in Jerusalem and at this time, the ‘spirit of Elijah’ will be poured out upon him at the same time that the spirit of Moses is poured out upon the gentile born prophet and he shall proclaim the grace of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel.

    Both prophets will become known to the world before their meeting in Jerusalem and both will have a message for the world to prepare the world for the end. Both will make falsifiable predictions about what is to happen in the near future and these predictions will come to pass. Both will claim that one and only one of the Christian Churches throughout the world is the true Christian Church, both will identify the same Church. Also, the Rabbinical Jews, themselves, will agree with these two prophets and testify that they have correctly identified the true Church of Christ Jesus.

    It is NOT the messianic Jews. Both will call for the Messianic Sect to end and for the members of that sect to come into communion with the Church that both of these witness identify.

    Both witnesses are alive now and both are becoming increasingly aware that they are the two. Neither one has gained knowledge of the other. When the both gain knowledge of the other, both will publicly identify the other. The Jewish witnesses will invite the gentile witness to Israel at the same time that the gentile witnesses announces his plan to visit Israel and will call for the Jewish witness to prepare for his arrival. Both will accept the other’s invitation. Their mission will begin at that time but it will still be a period of years before the gentile witness arrives in Israel. They will keep in contact with each other but, again, shall not meet face to face until the gentile born witness arrives in Israel.

    The identity of the two witness will be know by the names given to them at birth.

    The gentile will be named “God shall raise up a son from the family of the warriors of renown” and his name will be written in the language of his ancestors.

    The jew will be named, “YHWH is my God and Him shall I follow” and his name will be written in the name of his ancestors.

    • This absolutely concurs with my own dreams and visions. The gentile witness is a fighter, and solves his problems the way a warrior would. Secret Service agents constantly try to murder them. And fail miserably.

      First the gentile witness will travel to France, and do unconventional things. A woman with dark curly hair will be involved when he is in France. She is one of the 144,000.
      The dream starts when the gentile witness is arrested. He gets tazered while being handcuffed. The result of this cowardly deed is that the policewoman who fires the tazer gun gets killed. After that, he burns some other police officers alive. He is so angry that he burns great parts of some historical town. He seems super macho and ultra dominant. Also, he sets fire to a local police station. Nobody can stop him.
      When he is done, he steps into a car,gets his stuff and travels to France. The dream stops when he meets this mysterious lady, who seems to have a son. She smiles as if she knows him.
      In these end time dreams and visions i see a cloud covered world in distress. People are protesting, there is some fascist government threatening all citizens.

      A certain John Hagee wrote a book on four blood moons. Well, i think they don’t mean a thing. What we as Christians should be looking for is the signs foretold by our Lord Jesus Christ. As in matthew 24, Mark 13,and luke 21. Joel tells it rather clear as well. In my opinion, the sky will be so covered by smoke that it will block the sun light. We won’t be able to see any stars, nor the moon or sun, then.
      And besides that, the claim that historical events pertaining the destiny of Israel concurred at blood moon tetrads is simply untrue.
      If you have a tetrad 10 months after the 6 day war, well, what kind of crappy sign would that be?
      But mr Hagee is making a lot of money with his book, and i hope he is happy.deep down inside though, he knows he’s been telling deliberate lies.

    • How do you know they will be father less? Moses had two wonderful boys. So if they are like Elijah and Moses. One could have kids and the other not. Both are from the tribes of Israel.

  27. The two witnesses are the two that have not yet died. Do you know who they are? Read your Bible before the flood there was Enoch, after the flood Elijah was taken. The only two people that were taken that did not die yet. God will give them power when they come back. Believe what you want, ask God for He knows everything. Thank God he does know everything. About Enoch and Elijah these are the only two people that in the Bible that have not yet died the first death. So they have to come back to witnesses and then to die and be called back up to God, Then God will give them new bodies

    • Yeshua is not going to let any prophet take away from His glory. Yeshua will come down and the entire world will see it. The entire sky (the clouds, the moon, the sun and all the universe will be rolled up like a scroll and the only light will be Him. Yes Enoch and the other elders will be close behind Him. But you wll not see them for all will be on their face before the Risen King.

  28. When John the Baptist came he knew he was prophet of the most high but magical signs and wonders didnt prove it. The the apostles followed suite and the bible saids that signs and wonders followed them.
    The 2 witnesses described here have to be literal because because they are described as 2 men not the churches because else where in revelation when John refers to the church he means the church.
    Also chapter 12 talks about the lawless one doing great signs and miracles like the 2 magicians against Moses in Egypt calling fire down from heaven on behalf of Satan.
    Also they may not be Jews as Paul states in Gods kingdom there is neither Jew or Gentile but all one In Christ Jesus.
    If they are already here then Satan knows who they are but isnt allowed to kill them until their appointed time the same as Christs appointed time. Remember Jesus told his disciples not to tell anyone about his identity until the right time Mark 8.30
    I believe one is already here but isnt ready and is keeping it to himself
    .

  29. How about the two witnesses instead being one born and raised in the church keeping the faith (Israel,Tame Olive Tree), and one who comes from serving the world to knowing God (Gentiles, Wild Olive Tree)? That would also give a proper example of the two horns on the Ram standing by the river in Daniel 8:3. Who is to say the two witnesses even know who they are yet, close to coming to power but not there yet….. starting to see, but not clearly yet. Best way to find them will be to watch who starts gaining the attention of the leaders of the denominational religions. They will be noticed, weighed, then dismissed by the leaders before their witness will come to full power.

  30. It just seems to me that the fact that Enoch and Elijah both did not experience death. They would logically be the two witnesses during the last days! Also, the fact that the Jews are looking for Elijah to be a witness to the coming of Jesus is even more reason to believe that God would allow him to be a witness in the last days. But, no matter, we soon will see and know who they are and I am growing more excited everyday to the soon return of of Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

  31. there are many examples of these two witnesses throughout the Bible. The temple of Solomon shows them as well. The two Cherubims that stand by the throne are in the position of eyes when looking down on the temple (1 Kings 6:22-24). what does a witness do? they observe and give testemony of what they see. David sat between the two gates, gates are entrances, so are your eyes. David the King sat between the two gates as two witnesses came to give testemony, of whom the King asked of the status of his son (2 Samuel 18:22-33). Isaiah 45 1-4, matthew 20:20-23, Zechariah 4:1-14

  32. Personally I am convicted to believe that the Two Witnesses are not two men, but two churches, even as scripture tells us. I believe one church is Philadelphia, which consists of Messianic Jews and Gentile Christians, both having come to Christ during the gentile portion of the church age, though the Messianic Jews represent the first fruits, as the church began with the Jews, and then later with the Gentiles.

    The second church, I believe, is Smyrna, which I believe consists of either of “His elect,” that come of “the elect” (believers in Christ that were deceived to believe another gospel).

    The 144, 000 Jews are redeemed from among men, being the first fruits. Therefore, I believe these 144, 000 come to Christ via those Messianic Jews (the first fruits). I believe the multitude of people from all nations, tongues, etc. come to Christ via those Gentile Christians. Therefore, I think when these two groups come to Christ their faith will be tested, as they will be martyred, as they are seen in heaven before the throne. I believe it’s after this time of martyrdom (the Lord giving the two witnesses an open door to share the true doctrine and gospel of Christ) the Messianic Jews and Gentile Christians will then go forth and testify against an ungodly and disobedient people that refused the truth; and when they have finished their testimony then power is given to him to kill the two witnesses. (It’s not inconceivable for these two churches to be lying in the streets, as they will be few in number; it’s more inconceivable to imagine two men doing that great of work all around the world.

    Blessings in Christ,
    Greg

  33. Ok, one more thing on that dual meaning article that came to mind. If there are not only two individuals but also two nations; and if those nations are spiritually Sodom or America and spiritually Egypt or Great Britian well I had just learned on Chrislam which had an article about an organization out of Yale working on Interfaithism and two of it’s strongest supporters and promoters? Bill Clinton, US and Tony Blair (?) former PM of GB. Honestly, it doesn’t really change all that much though. Things are going to be the worst ever….literally YET it is not without hope! For Revelation 1:3 tells us “Blessed (happy, [c]to be envied) is the man who reads aloud [in the assemblies] the word of this prophecy; and blessed (happy, [d]to be envied) are those who hear [it read] and who keep themselves true to the things which are written in it [heeding them and laying them to heart], for the time [for them to be fulfilled] is near.” I prefer the Amplified here “reads ALOUD” as that is what Irvin Baxter and family at Endtime Ministry are doing! Thank you and God bless by the way :)

  34. oops. didn’t get the whole verse in of Revelation 11:12 “And they[e] heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.”

  35. WHEN WILL THE CHURCH BE CALLED AWAY BEFORE THE TRIBULATION OR AFTER. PEOPLE HAS TOLD ME BEFORE AND SOME BELEIVES AFTER. WHAT DO YOU BELEIVE… MAY GOD BLESS YOU I ENJOY YOUR SERMANS.. JESUS IS COMMING SOON.

  36. The two witnesses are two servants of God but who they are or what they do is sealed. But if you want to find out more on these two servants of God go to the prophet Isaiah. These two servants represent the two sons given to Isaiah as signs to the house of Judah. To some the kingdom of God is shown but to others it’s hidden in parables or enigmas. Only faith from God can open the doors to the kingdom. When God sent true prophets there were also false prophets same as today. God never changes only humans do.

  37. A testimony against someone is something that dwells in a person. The person himself is not the witness but it is the testimony that dwell in the person, that will condemn or set free the person on trial.
    The two prophets of Revelation 11 must keep the Commandments of God and have the testimonies of Jesus dwelling in them or they could have the power to do anything. The Commandments of God and the testimonies of Jesus will justify or condemn the guilty people. Therefore I see the two anointed ones of Revelation 11 as the Commandments of God and the testimonies of Jesus dwelling in two kinds of people.
    These two kinds of people are both Jew and Gentile who have became one with Messiah. The testimonies of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy, these two will prophecy for 42 months.

  38. A scriptura alternative interpretation. Lets asume that Christ desires that we understand who the two witnesses are in Rev. 11. The Holy Spirit knows that just reading thte book of Revelations will not reveal their identity . So only a bible student would catch the reference of the two olive tree’s. That reference takes us to the writings of the prophet’s. Zechariah chapter 4, where we are given the answer. I do not know why everyone reads through it, but does not see it.The vision is emphatic. Take another look at what Zechariah is shown! The two olive tree’s are emptying the golden oil out of themselves. Question? Wknowknow that the il

  39. since there is a referral to 3 1/2 years that their bodies (the prophets) will lie in the streets, what makes this so different from the other prophecies that are in the same passages referring to 3 1/2 days as being 3 1/2 years?

    • People need to stop trying to have a revelation.. The Bible says it plan…31/2 days why ? because Christ was 3 days then was brought up , see? the two prophets are not greater than Christ. and many so called prophets today say jew/gentile old testament/new testament and some say this and some say that …but what does the scripture say..TWO prophets , that means two men… and 31/2 years 42 months they will prophecy and 31/2 days lay dead in the streets even where our Lord was crucified ..NOW that’s is sound doctrine .

  40. ok tell me im crazy but im under the impression that there is more than 2 olive trees that exist within a world. things pass away and they get replaced by new matter. life. what im saying is yes ur right. its not moses and elijah. they are not here runnin the show. may be behind the scenes but no. heres why. there are 7 churches. 7 continents. each with their own leaders and countries. but how many of these countries within these 7 churches want 2 certain ppl dead? who have well trained miliary capabilities? ill give u a hint. they r fighting against real nuclear all out war. obama and netanyahu. it fits perfectly. id love someones input

    • obama is definitely not a prophet. he does nothing buy blaspheme God and pushes gay rights and interfaith beliefs. if anything he’s pushing for the seat of anti-Christ!

  41. God’s two witnesses will be just that yet that does not mean that they will necessarily be visual witnesses of Him – in fact for them to to claim so would negate them as legitimate for their claim would contradict scripture itself for “No one can see G-d and live” therefore if they claim to have visually seen G-d they would contradict His word would they not?
    A credible witness can also be an audible witness – just ask any attorney. Many persons have been convicted for their crimes based solely upon an audible witness’s testimony therefore it stands to reason these Two Witnesses may very well be considered legitimate based solely upon their spiritually audible encounters with Holy Spirit.
    Anyway – it does not matter one way or the other if the world (including many that claim to be Christ’s own) considers their testimony as legitimate (and it will not therefore their murders); it only matters that God knows their testimony of Him to be true.

  42. Very clear teaching. I believe they are alive today. I believe they probably have thoughts that they might one of the two witnesses. I think many Christians have such passing thoughts. I don’t think they presently “know” that they are them. How would they “know?” By a voice? By a vision? There are many that hear voices and many that that have visions and they are on or should be on meds. Muhammad saw an angel of light and started the anti-Christ Islam. Just hearing a voice or having a vision or a thought is not enough. People are decieved all day long. How many of us good standing and upright Christians have not been in error is some way and not slip or been decieved? This scripture come to mind. 1Cor8:2. “Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know.” If as it seems to me that the High Priest Joshua and the Governor Zerubbabel are prophetic types of the two witnesses; that the “Joshua” witness is caught in the midst of a cosmic war between angelic powers. “1Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. 2The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?” Zech3:1 We don’t really know what the Two Witnesses candidate are going through in the preparation for their ministry. Or what is necessary to prepare them inwardly for the mission. I think if we believe that they are alive that we need to consider holding them up in prayer.

  43. Holly says: Is it not possible that one or both of the two witnesses may be a woman.

    Nell says: Yes God does use whomever He chooses, however the scripture calls the two witnesses “prophets” not prophetess.

    Food (or Bread) for thought:

    Galatians 3:26-31 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. [There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.] If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    1 Corinthians 25-29 This foolish plan of God is wiser than the wisest of human plans, and God’s weakness is stronger than the greatest of human strength. Remember, dear brothers and sisters, that few of you were wise in the world’s eyes or powerful or wealthy when God called you. Instead, God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful. God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important. As a result, no one can ever boast in the presence of God.

    God has united you with Christ Jesus. For our benefit God made him to be wisdom itself. Christ made us right with God; he made us pure and holy, and he freed us from sin. Therefore, as the Scriptures say, “If you want to boast, boast only about the LORD.”

  44. Let me ask this–if the Lord has prophesied through His Holy Spirit in His written Word, the Bible, that something or other is going to come to pass, is it right that we as believers should resist or work to delay or prevent that prohesy from coming to pass? Do we believe that God is in control or not?
    Should we not instead prepare ourselves and our families for when it does come so we know what is happening when we see it happening around us. The knowledge of that should be sufficient to keep us confident in our faith and trust in God.
    Also, by delaying some prophesies, such as a national ID, aren’t we therefore delaying the coming of Christ? Should we not be praying for the quick return of Christ instead?
    What do you think?

  45. Is it not possible that one or both of the two witnesses may be a woman. God can empower whosoever He pleases. Ministries of today consists of women and men and they do an awesome job. I would not be surprised if one of them is a women. God chose Mary to give birth to Jesus.

    • Yes God does use whomever He chooses, however the scripture calls the two witnesses “prophets” not prophetess. Since there is an understanding in the bible, we see that there are prophetess(women, Phillips’ daughters) and then there are prophets (men, the major and minor prophets that bible books are named ). I hope this helps; that same thought came to me as well, but then the quick response to my thought was what I just gave to you. In Christ Nell

  46. If the these two witnesses are alive on earth now, they could be operating or are involved in a foundational ministry before they start the “two witnesses” ministry not knowing they are the witnesses. Remember John the Baptist didn’t realize that he was “Elijah to come”. When he was asked, he said “no, I’m the voice crying in the wilderness to prepare the way of the Lord”. I hope the witnesses get lots of air time and plenty of publicity because they will teach the true first century church doctrines. There is a lot of confusion out there.

  47. why can’t the two witnesses be church and Israel? Being “killed” for 3.5 days(yrs.) could mean the troubles and trials and martyrdom that will be happening then at mid trib. the two witnesses are taken to Heaven just before GOD’s wrath is poured out

  48. Spiritual things cannot always be logical. There is a reason he referred to the Two Candlesticks and the Two Olive trees. The three and one half days sounds a lot like three and one half years. Also, a lot of references to past miracles of prophets like Moses and Elijah, as well as current events. I think there was a comparison of things that will occur, will resemble things that have already occurred. Many theories, Just like Pre-trib vs. Post-trib. What we do know for sure is that God will have witnesses, like he has always had.

  49. Enoch, and Elijah! They are not coming in the spriti as persons, but coming as they are. God’s gift and calling are without repentance. God has not taken away the power he gave them in the first place. Little is known about what Enoch did in his first go around as Prophet. Zechariah 4:3,11-14 Rev.6:9-11 Rev.11:1-12. These witness which stand before Lord of the whole earth were standing before in the old testament, so this rules out the summons of the prophets in the last days, of being someone from our generation. There’s alot in reasoning, to think it’s gonna be this way, or that way. The main thing is to be ready for the
    coming of the Lord. That’s what counts!

  50. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy…Lo, I (Jesus) comes, in the volume of the book..Gen. – Rev. is of the Old & New Testament. The two olive branches is the Old & New Testament Word of God, the volume of the book…one like the son of man in the midst of the Golden Candlestick, eyes if the LORD going through the whole earth, not by mighty, nor by power, but by my Spirit saith the Lord. Rev. 20:4 “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon the, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” Rev. 8:13 “Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed…he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many; he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes (Jesus-Word of God) but he shall be broken without hand. Forth kingdom in Daniel 7, will stamp the truth to the ground…made war with the saints…the ten horns, the one who arises out of them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. (War against the saints who are witnesses of the whole roll or Word of God two candlesticks, truth being stomped to the ground, for the Word of God torments the wicked prince and people, for they hate the Prince (Jesus Christ) Rev. 8:25. This is all during the last 3 1/2 yrs. Many more scriptures show of the saints dying in the great city world wide spiritual Babylon, for the witness of Jesus. Daniel 11:31-36..war against the saints of God, but the people who know their God shall do exploits, understand, instruct many…while the system set up is against God of gods…warfare during the last 3 1/2 years greater then ever in the earth, for it is the final battle of evil verses good. Daniel 12:7…last 3 1/2 years the people of God, witnesses of Jesus holy true covenant..to accomplish to scatter the power of the holy people..many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand…the truth of the two olive branches oil of Holy Ghost and fire will proceed out of the saints mouth witnessing Jesus Covenant, and this torments the wicked.

  51. Mat 17:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Mat 17:13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
    Isn’t this reincarnation.

  52. I believe the two witnesses to be two people of Gods choosing that the Holy Spirit will descend upon and fill with all the knowledge to witness to the world. They currently are just walking around living life and don’t even know that it is them that will be chosen. It could be anyone , and for this reason, they have subconsciously without knowledge, been doing things to be prepared for this moment. Could even be you……………

  53. Perry Stone and John Haggee comes to mind. There are plenty of preachers that speak the word, but they also speak the word with forked tongue. It should be clear to everybody by now that the Roman Catholic Church is the leader of the masses of the false church.
    The People of the US are all bent on imposing the “mark of the beast” on everyone. I listen to the news and preachers everyday. They’re all saying the same thing. For most, their agenda is not to lead people to be saved spiritually, but saved from not having to endure the punishment they have coming. They seek to save each other from being subjected to having to live right on the earth or die. They want to save each other from being forced to endure the punishment they have been bringing on themselves for years now. They are not willing whatsoever to have to live life the way it was meant to be lived. And all the companies in the US, hand in hand with the churches and government, are seeking total control over the masses, to impose on them what is referred to as “the mark of the beast.” And the churches and the government are one and the same. They are ruled by the same people, the US nation of false church people.
    I don’t believe the two witnesses are just two men, but two groups of masses of people, perhaps led by two particular people, the tip top head of the “Church (social and congegational aspects),” and the tip top head of “government” (financial and military aspects). Both are corrupt, hand in hand, and they are one and the same.
    When this big war comes, those who are not killed by it are not going to be any different than they were, which is why it will not just end there, it will be a war that spreads from there to scorch the earth’s surface so that it can be replenished, without the fruits and nuts of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

  54. I remember Bro. Irvin Baxter said. When I see the Antichrist stands in the Temple
    I’m going to hop on a plain and head to Israel a hold an end time conference.
    Irvin is planning on being there the same time the Antichrist reveals himself. The Bible says after the abomination of desolation the two witnesses start preaching. Why wouldn’t God use a Holy Ghost filled believer nobody else could preach the end times like Irvin and when you have the Holy Ghost you can do anything even the miracles of Moses and Elijah. I believe Bro Baxter is a good candidate to be one of the two witnesses, Just a thought

  55. It is appointed unto man to die once. The only men that have not died are Enoch and Elijah.
    I understand that the rapture will change that but that is a benefit of living for GOD in the last days. John the baptist did come in the spirit of Elijah but he was not Elijah, he himself said he was not Elijah. None of know for sure but I am leaning toward the two prophets being Enoch and Elijah.

  56. I reserve my comment ………. but one thing am so sure of is that they are somewhere hidden but who are those praying to see them manifest?. do you remember them in your prayers?..then I reserve my good comment.

    • Could..John the Baptist new he was anointed with the spirit of Elijah and was sent to fulfill scripture because he quoted from Mal.3 the verse ( I AM the voice of one crying in the wilderness ! SEE SEE … he new

  57. I’m thinking that Bro Stoneking is one of the wittness’s..lol..who knows..just trying to think of great men of GOD within our ranks..maybe Bro Baxter…

    • my friends google up john darby 1830ad or Edward irving 1830ad and you will find that the word RAPTURE is not in the greek or Hebrew bible and is not found in the KJV bible of 1611 as well…caught up was the catholic translation for the latin word that was added to the Geneva bible it is not in the original scriptures at all….Hebrew lxx and greek lxx and the original HEBREW does not teach it…when Christ comes he will come ….the end will be..if there is a private revelation then God would show it to us all by his word … The two prophets to come will be vindicated by power to stop rain turn water to blood and prophecy for 3 1/2 years under the messiah power … hated by the world and killed lay three days and one half then rise like Christ did… amen google then names and learn that a catholic started that theory of rapture from a girl that fail into a trance in 1830 in England… its not scriptural at all…. its mens way of thinking but GOD did not say it. just google it.

    • Bro. Stoneking is indeed a great man of God but he believes in a pre-tribulation rapture, could he still be one of the witnesses?

  58. Awesome information! Thank You Irvin Baxter for making things so clear and understandable. Great lesson.

  59. The Peace Treaty between Israel and Palestine has not yet been signed. It will, however, soon be signed. The two witnesses do not witness for 3 1/2 years, they are olny there for a short while. They appear half way through the Tribulation (after 3 1/2 years) after preaching for a short while, they are killed and then taken up to Heaven after 3 days.

    Satan is not in Heaven where God is. He was kicked out of there when he rebelled and took a third of the angels with him. When it talks about wars in the “heavenlies”, that is referring to Satan’s domain. Once he possesses the world leader in the middle of the 7 years of the Tribulation period then he will only be on earth. Satan cannot be in two places at the same time, that’s why he has demons working for him.

    The world leader at the time will be possessed by Satan and will then become the anti-christ. When the 7 year Peace Treaty is signed between Israel and Palestine, then the Tribulation will begin, and that is when the Rapture will take place.

    • Thanks Meriel for the information. I do believe, however, that though Lucifer lost his angelic hierarchal position and was cast from heaven that he remains until this day as the “Accuser of the Brethren” as perhaps noted in the Book of Job where Satan entered into the presence of the Lord along with the Sons of God (Job 1:6). Later in the book of Luke 10:18 we find Christ stating, ” And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven”. There is also evidence that there will be a future war in heaven perhaps between the Lord’s angelic host and that of the angelic host that chose to fight with and on behalf of Satan’s cause which is to usurp God’s throne as reflective of Rev. 12:7-9, “7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” The way that we know this is yet a future occurrence and that the Serpent still has access is because of his current role as the accuser because we also read in Rev. 12:10, “10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.” The way we know that the Dragon does indeed have access to the Lord after his exile and rebellion in which he took a third of the stars or angels with him is that it also indicates that Satan was overcome by the Blood of the Lamb and that Satan will be in a state of unimaginable wrath because of the shortness of the time allotted to him in the following event as recorded in Rev. 12: 11-12, “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” There is a peace treaty or covenant of peace (Daniel 9:27) confirmed between Israel and the Anti-Christ, however, that peace treaty is not necessarily between Israel and Palestine, “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” I am curious if there is a direct reference that states how long the two end time witnesses will witness and speak against Satan and his evil minions, perhaps 1260 days as indicated by Revelation 11:3, ” 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.” Its after this length of time, 42 months or 3 1/2 years before they are slain by the beast ascending out of the bottomless pit and lie in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days before being raised (Rev. 11:7-12). I don’t believe that they just appear half-way through the tribulation but are bust witnessing for the full 1260 days as is witnessed in Revelation 11:3. Any thoughts on this. I fully agree that Satan is a created being and can only be in one place at a time and he himself does not possess omnipresence. The spirit of antichrist has been around for quite sometime as spoken of by John the Apostle, ”
      1 John 2:18

      King James Version (KJV) 18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.” Meriel, this is a naïve question but is it possible this antichrist spirit is somehow reflective of the old Adamic sin nature before someone is born into the Kingdom of our Christ or is it an acquired trait that has to be sought after knowingly by those who seek to deliberately deceive and could the same possibly be said of the coming Anti-Christ? In a sentence, the person who assumes the role of Anti-Christ or the son of perdition must knowingly allow and accept the powers given unto him by Satan? We read that Satan entered into Judas Iscariot, but that didn’t necessarily make him become the anti-Christ and perhaps it was when he came unto himself again he realized that he had betrayed innocent blood and cast the 30 pieces of silver down and went and hung himself? Any thoughts regarding this matter are definitely appreciated.

    • Revelation 11:3 says that the two witnesses will minister for 1,260 days, which is equivalent to 3 1/2 years.

      Satan still has access to heaven, where God is. Satan is the accuser of the brethren but he can only do what God allows him to do. We see an example of this in Job 1.

      The tribulation does not begin with the signing of the Middle East peace treaty, the confirmation of the covenant. Jesus taught in Matthew 24:15-21 that the tribulation would begin after the abomination of desolation which according to Daniel 9:27 happens 3 1/2 years after the confirmation of the covenant. This is also when the Antichrist is revealed. God bless.

      • The abomination of desolation is the start of the Great Tribulation – the second half. The first half of the tribulation starts at the signing of the Peace Treaty. The world leader at that time, will be possessed by Satan and in that way will become the Antichrist. I have studied this subject for 34 years, I don’t have all the answers, but I have a pretty good understanding of Revelation and I am still learning. No one really has all the answers, time will tell. The only important thing is to BE READY.

        • It is important to be ready and we want to reach this world with the gospel of Jesus Christ. For the sake of prophecy, there is no indication in the scriptures that the tribulation begins at the confirmation of the covenant. This is something that tradition teaches but there is no scriptural support. God bless.

  60. Omgoosh..that just blew my theory out of the water..lol I never thought about the two witnesses being here right now here today and preparing themselves. I was thinking it was Enoch and Elijah because it doesn’t say they died; so I figured it would be those two; but now that you mention it it doesn’t make sense for it to be someone of the old testiment..and especially with it being thousands of years a go. Hmmmm..now it makes me wonder who they are even more.

  61. I find it quite a coincidence that the witnesses will lie in the street for 3 1/2 days. Can the translation be questioned? The tribulation is 3 1/2 years. The saints will be beheaded. What if it doesn’t mean just one 3 1/2 days. It could be possible that after a saint is killed their bodies will be put on display for 3 1/2 days for the period of 3 1/2 years. Jesus did say we would do greater exploits. Then, the witnesses are caught up into heaven as are all the saints in the rapture. Jews must be buried within 24 hours so it could be a way of defiling them. Maybe I’m way off the mark on this but I have wondered about it.

  62. Let us all continue to watch and not speculate for we will know the 2 witnesses when we see them ………God’s will be done ……..There is no way there living here on earth now …………When the time is right we will all know in Jesus Name Peace to All ……………..

  63. In Zechariah 4 The Lampstand it says that the two olive trees are, “These are the two anointed who
    stand by the Lord of the whole earth”

    • Does this mean literal or spiritual? Standing by the Lord. If literal then it could be a case for Elijah and whoever else. But in Spirit then it could be anyone.

  64. Consideration of this subject must be in the realm of possibilities not absolutes; at least my thoughts are… for I am not stating more than what seems to be a credible possibility. Much discussion has already given Elijah the position as the number one candidate for being one of the two… and I would agree. The other is more of a mystery and while it could be anyone, I believe there is evidence that it is the Apostle John.

    It would seem that the reappearance of John would be in the same manner as Elijah, who came… as John the baptist… “in the spirit and power of the prophet”, not an actual physical visit of the 1st century man of God. It could be that John, like Elijah, did not die a natural death (although scripture does not tell us this… but then it could not as John was the last of the biblical writers and could not tell of his own translation if indeed it did happen.) Many of us are aware of the word about John directed toward Peter as the Pentecostal spokesman was told of his own martyrdom in the last chapter of John. Jesus said, “what if he (John) doesn’t die? What is that to you (Peter)” It was rumored that John would not die. John makes it clear that Jesus did not say that he (John) would not die, but was using the thought as to make a point to Peter not to worry about what happens to John. Most would stop at that point and conclude that John would die. But let us consider: John was not (according to history) martyred while all other Apostles were. It is said that he was boiled in oil, but did not die. While Jesus did not say John would not die, He did place the thought in the minds of people that he would not by saying what he did to Peter. In other words while he did not say he would not die, He did not say that he would either! The entire conversation at the “fish fry” was a little out of the ordinary… was the Lord trying to tell us more than we are reading in the story… wouldn’t be the first time. John writes what is told him by the angel about the two witnesses in Revelation chapter 11. Part of what he heard was, “And they of the the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies… (speaking of the two witnesses). We are familiar with this part of the story of the two witnesses, however just prior to this account we read the angel’s words to John as well as the account of their encounter, “Rev 10:8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
    Rev 10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
    Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
    Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
    It is stated that John would prophecy again in front of the whole world (even as the two witnesses would). He was give a book to eat. Could it be that book is the sealed voices of the seven thunders that he was commanded not to write down? Is the last 3 and 1/2 years (the witnesses time of prophecy) the actual conclusion of the Book of Revelation (as those 7 voices were not written in Revelation). Are the seven thunders the essence of the two witnesses prophecy? It was sweet in John’s mouth (the fact that he would prophesy is a sweet thought to anyone desiring to be used of God), but bitter in his stomach (the result of this great work would be his death in the streets of Jerusalem).
    Food for thought… sweet and bitter.

    p.s. This would necessitate a post-tribulation rapture view.

    • The most intellectual and discerning post yet concerning the two witnesses! Many say it is “this person” and “that person” though their response is based only on assumptions.

      The Lord Jesus, along with the angel Gabriel, identified John the Baptist as coming in the spirit and power of Elijah. However, John the Baptist did not fully accomplish everything that was prophesied of him, and he denied being the Elijah.

      As you implied in your post, there is indeed a spiritual significance of Him saying “John” would not die. Wait a minute though! The Lord was referring to John the disciple and not John the Baptist when He said that. Was He trying to get us to focus on something else?

      John the Baptist and John the disciple were two different people but with the same name of John.
      I believe the Lord Jesus kept pointing to the name of John for a reason.

      With that said, I believe it is in the realm of possibility that a third man named John comes at the end of the age in the spirit and power of Elijah to “prophesy again” to fulfill the whole prophecy! Furthermore, I believe that the Lord Jesus will make it quite clear who he will be.

      However, the question will arise again…
      Matthew 11:14 (NKJV) – “And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come.”

    • You are on to something I believe. Check out Mathew 16:28 and mark 9:1 and Luke 9:27. Jesus was saying that there were some there that wouldn’t taste death till he came again. I may have it wrong but it always caught my attention when I would read that.

  65. I believe that Elijah and Moses are coming back , although I am a bit confused that Elijah is still here on Eart and is 3000 years old? Please explain this to me. Thank you!

      • Rev Baxter said it in his discourse above. However, Elijah was taken up in the chariot of fire. I suppose God could’ve ceased his aging process, too. I guess we’ll see. I love Rev. Baxter preaching and know he knows WAY more than me; so I’m not second guessing his teaching on this.

        • It is possible. God can do anything. If it is Elijah and Enoch where are they at this moment? Can they be waiting in paradise along with all of those who have died in the lord even though they never died? We will have to wait and see.

  66. I think you, Irvin Baxter and Bro. Stair from S.C. are the two witnesses. You two are the ones preaching, warning, and telling people the Biblical way to be saved and born again.

    • The witnesses will preach the Oneness. John 17. The prayer of Jesus before the cross. Oneness is not equality with God but communion. Oneness with God is not to seek His will but already to be immersed in its current. A Oneness Church does not preach so much as to make introductions. So Christianity is not a religion but a relationship? So prove it. Tell us what He is like. By slow degrees introduce us to your Friend, the Lord of Heaven and Earth. This Oneness that is the witness to the World that Jesus Christ was truly the Son of God and that He reproduced His relationship with God the Father and God the Spirit in us when He reconciled us through the work of the Cross. This unity Jesus speaks of is not side to side between believers but it is up and down with the Head of the Church, Jesus Christ. What hand can clasps its fellow without the connection to the Head. But we move without God and wonder at the unproductive results.

      Jesus Prays for All Believers

      20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

    • Praise God! You may know Jesus is our Passover, He fulfills the Law and the prophets. Your background in Judaism we be a treasure for you as you see how He fulfills the prophesies of the Hebrew scriptures. Welcome to the body of Christ!

      • Kimberly, consider the day of your post; it is important for Israel.

        Also, you wrote spiritually of the “law and prophets.” Moses represents the letter of the Law or Torah that points to the Messiah, and Elijah represents the spirit of prophecy that points to Messiah. Together they represent the Old Testament (i.e., TaNaKh) and the New Testament (i.e., Brit Chadasha). As Paul mentions the two olive trees of Gentile and Jewish faiths. The last chapter of the Old Testament mentions both Moses and Elijah for a reason when warning of the great and terrible Day of the Lord. We are called to “remember the Torah of Moses,” and Elijah will turn back the hearts of fathers to children and vise-versa. In spiritual terms the fathers are the Hebrew faith and Christians are the offspring of that faith.

        So what believers should expect is Elijah “restoring all things” to prepare the way of the coming of the Lord. The fact that truths must be restored from the Law means that there are many things that are currently not known of God’s great mystery.

        Right now many Christians are falling away because of neo-Darwinian materialism. And over half of American Jews admit that they are athiests. Truly there is much to be restored in this age…starting with trust in the Word of God and opening the mysteries of Torah so that Jews understand that Yeshua is indeed the awaited Messiah.

        Now this I say to all who wish to be Moses and Elijah during this age: You must want the entire world to hate you, even most Christians who are ignorant of the truths. Furthermore, you must be able to explain all mysteries of the Bible coherently. If you do not know why Messiah rose on the 3rd day, you are far from knowing all the mysteries. If you do not know why God chose 144,000 as a sign, then you have much to learn. A tidal wave of mysteries must be revealed by Scripture and correlations to science.